From vas at sibptus.ru Mon Aug 2 06:59:40 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 10:59:40 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= Message-ID: ???????, ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? UTF-8. ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From eugene at home.wdc.spb.ru Mon Aug 2 17:38:01 2021 From: eugene at home.wdc.spb.ru (Eugene V. Boontseff) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:38:01 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyIHhmY2U0LXRlcm1p?= =?utf-8?q?nal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437c7755-0590-fb88-9a37-9492a440190a@home.wdc.spb.ru> On 02.08.2021 06:59, Victor Sudakov wrote: > ???????, > > ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? > ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? > ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, > ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R > > ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? > UTF-8. > > ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? > ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. > > ????? ?? ????? ? ? ?????-????????? ? ? ????????? mate. -- Eugene From eugen at grosbein.net Tue Aug 3 08:11:06 2021 From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 12:11:06 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyIHhmY2U0LXRlcm1p?= =?utf-8?q?nal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 02.08.2021 10:59, Victor Sudakov ?????: > ???????, > > ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? > ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? > ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, > ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R > > ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? > UTF-8. > > ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? > ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. ? ?????? ??? FreeBSD ??????? ??? ?????? ? ?????? ????????? ?????????. ???? ?? ?????? ?????????????? ?????? ? ????????? ?????? ??????, ???? ?? ??????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????????. ??? ??? ???? ? ???? ?????? ?? ???????? (?? ?????????????? ??????????) ?????? ? KOI8-R, ????????, ??????????? ??????? pcf/bdf, ??? ?????????? OpenType, ??? TTF, ????? ??? ? ???? ????; ???? ???????? ????????????? ?? KOI8-R ? UTF-8. From vas at sibptus.ru Wed Aug 4 05:07:40 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 09:07:40 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > > > ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? > > ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? > > ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, > > ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R > > > > ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? > > UTF-8. > > > > ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? > > ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. > > ? ?????? ??? FreeBSD ??????? ?? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? FreeBSD, ???????????????? ????? ?????????? ?????????? ???????, ? ???????? ??? ??????? ?? ??????????. ? ??? ??????? ????????? ????? ?????????? ????????????? FreeBSD ? ???????????? ????????????? ?????????. > ??? ?????? ? ?????? ????????? ?????????. > ???? ?? ?????? ?????????????? ?????? ? ????????? ?????? ??????, > ???? ?? ??????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????????. ??? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ????, ? ??? ???? ? ????-?? ??? ?????????? ???????????? ?? ????, ??? ?? PR ??????, ??? ???? ?? ??????. > > ??? ??? ???? ? ???? ???? ?????? ? ????, ?? ??? ????????????? ????. ?????? ? ???????, ??? ????? ??? ? ????. > ?????? ?? ???????? (?? ?????????????? ??????????) > ?????? ? KOI8-R, ????????, ??????????? ??????? pcf/bdf, ??? ?????????? OpenType, > ??? TTF, ????? ??? ? ???? ????; ???? ???????? ????????????? ?? KOI8-R ? UTF-8. ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. ? ??? ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ? ????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????, ????????? libiconv ??? ???-?? ???????? ????????? -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From vas at sibptus.ru Wed Aug 4 05:12:20 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 09:12:20 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: <437c7755-0590-fb88-9a37-9492a440190a@home.wdc.spb.ru> References: <437c7755-0590-fb88-9a37-9492a440190a@home.wdc.spb.ru> Message-ID: Eugene V. Boontseff via freebsd wrote: > > > > ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? > > ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? > > ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, > > ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R > > > > ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? > > UTF-8. > > > > ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? > > ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. > > > > > ????? ?? ????? ? ? ?????-????????? ? ? ????????? mate. ? ?????? ? ??????? ?? ????????? -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From eugen at grosbein.net Wed Aug 4 07:35:26 2021 From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:35:26 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyIHhmY2U0LXRlcm1p?= =?utf-8?q?nal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38ccd378-ab3e-de58-584c-d66a21c1bd48@grosbein.net> 04.08.2021 9:07, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> ??? ?????? ? ?????? ????????? ?????????. >> ???? ?? ?????? ?????????????? ?????? ? ????????? ?????? ??????, >> ???? ?? ??????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????????. > > ??? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ????, ??? ???????? ????????, ? ????? ???????????? ??????. > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ???????????? ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????? ???????????????. ?????????????? ??????????? ???????. > ? ??? ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ? > ????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????, ????????? libiconv ??? > ???-?? ???????? ????????? ?? ????, ? ???? ????? ?????? KOI8-R. From bag-misc at zurbagan.org Wed Aug 4 11:48:47 2021 From: bag-misc at zurbagan.org (Andrey Blochintsev) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:48:47 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?koi8-r?b?4sXEwSDTIEtPSTgtUiDXICAgeGZjZTQtdGVybWluYWwu?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:07 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. > ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. > > ? ??? ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ? > ????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????, ????????? libiconv ??? > ???-?? ???????? ????????? ??? ??? ???????????? - ?? ????, ?? ??????????? ????? ???? ????: screen ????? ?????????????? From yz at yz.kiev.ua Wed Aug 4 13:12:13 2021 From: yz at yz.kiev.ua (George L. Yermulnik) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:13 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?koi8-r?b?4sXEwSDTIEtPSTgtUiDXICAgeGZjZTQtdGVybWluYWwu?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> Hello! On Wed, 04 Aug 2021 at 09:07:40 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. > ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. ? x11/mlterm ? ? ?? ??? ????? ??????? ????????? (??, ? ?? ?????? ??? ?????). ????? ????????????? ?????????. ??? ??????????????? ??????????? ?? destination ????? ????????? `echo -en "\x1b]5379;encoding=KOI8-U\x07"` x11/luit ??? ????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??????? ? UTF (??? `luit -encoding KOI8-R ssh remote.host`), ?? "????? ?? ???". -- George L. Yermulnik [YZ-RIPE] From vvd at unislabs.com Wed Aug 4 13:21:00 2021 From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:21:00 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyIHhmY2U0LXRlcm1p?= =?utf-8?q?nal=2E?= In-Reply-To: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> References: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> Message-ID: 04.08.2021 13:12, George L. Yermulnik ?????: > Hello! > > On Wed, 04 Aug 2021 at 09:07:40 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: > >> ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. >> ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. > ? x11/mlterm ? ? ?? ??? ????? ??????? ????????? (??, ? ?? ?????? ??? ?????). > ????? ????????????? ?????????. ??? ??????????????? ??????????? ?? > destination ????? ????????? `echo -en "\x1b]5379;encoding=KOI8-U\x07"` > > x11/luit ??? ????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??????? ? UTF (??? `luit > -encoding KOI8-R ssh remote.host`), ?? "????? ?? ???". > x11/konsole ????? ? ????????? - ?????? ??? ??????????. P.S. ?? ? ?? ??????? ????? ????? ?? UTF-8 (??????? ? 8-? ??? ???????, ? ??? ???? ??? 10 ?????). From vas at sibptus.ru Wed Aug 4 15:16:29 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 19:16:29 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: <38ccd378-ab3e-de58-584c-d66a21c1bd48@grosbein.net> References: <38ccd378-ab3e-de58-584c-d66a21c1bd48@grosbein.net> Message-ID: Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > >> ??? ?????? ? ?????? ????????? ?????????. > >> ???? ?? ?????? ?????????????? ?????? ? ????????? ?????? ??????, > >> ???? ?? ??????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????????. > > > > ??? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ????, > > ??? ???????? ????????, ? ????? ???????????? ??????. ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ???? ??????, ?????? ? ???? ???-?? ????????? ??? ???????. > > > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? > > ???????????? ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????? ???????????????. > ?????????????? ??????????? ???????. > > > ? ??? ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ? > > ????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????, ????????? libiconv ??? > > ???-?? ???????? ????????? > > ?? ????, ? ???? ????? ?????? KOI8-R. IMHO ????????. ??????????? ?????? ? mutt ?????? ?? ????? ??????????? ????????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? - ????????. ?? ? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????, ??? ? KOI8-R ?? ?????. -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From vas at sibptus.ru Wed Aug 4 15:19:46 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 19:19:46 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andrey Blochintsev wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:07 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. > > ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. > > > > ? ??? ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ? > > ????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????, ????????? libiconv ??? > > ???-?? ???????? ????????? > > ??? ??? ???????????? - ?? ????, ?? ??????????? ????? ???? ????: screen > ????? ?????????????? > ? ????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ??????????, ????? ??????? ???? ???? ??????, ????? ????? ??????????????? ???????, ?? ????????? ????? KOI8-R, ???????? UTF-8. -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From vas at sibptus.ru Wed Aug 4 15:22:12 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 19:22:12 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICAgIHhmY2U0LXRl?= =?utf-8?q?rminal=2E?= In-Reply-To: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> References: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> Message-ID: George L. Yermulnik wrote: > Hello! > > On Wed, 04 Aug 2021 at 09:07:40 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. > > ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. > > ? x11/mlterm ? ? ?? ??? ????? ??????? ????????? (??, ? ?? ?????? ??? ?????). > ????? ????????????? ?????????. ??? ??????????????? ??????????? ?? > destination ????? ????????? `echo -en "\x1b]5379;encoding=KOI8-U\x07"` > > x11/luit ??? ????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??????? ? UTF (??? `luit > -encoding KOI8-R ssh remote.host`), ?? "????? ?? ???". ???????, ???????? ? ??, ? screen, ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ?? ????. -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From vas at sibptus.ru Wed Aug 4 15:28:11 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 19:28:11 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> Message-ID: ???????? ???????? via freebsd wrote: > > > > > > > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. > > > ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. > > ? x11/mlterm ? ? ?? ??? ????? ??????? ????????? (??, ? ?? ?????? ??? ?????). > > ????? ????????????? ?????????. ??? ??????????????? ??????????? ?? > > destination ????? ????????? `echo -en "\x1b]5379;encoding=KOI8-U\x07"` > > > > x11/luit ??? ????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??????? ? UTF (??? `luit > > -encoding KOI8-R ssh remote.host`), ?? "????? ?? ???". > > > x11/konsole ????? ? ????????? - ?????? ??? ??????????. ? konsole ???????? ??? ??????? - ??? ??? ???? ???????? ?? ??????????, ?? ????? ??? ???, ?? ?? ???? ? ??? ????????????. > > P.S. ?? ? ?? ??????? ????? ????? ?? UTF-8 (??????? ? 8-? ??? ???????, ? ??? > ???? ??? 10 ?????). ??? ?? ????, ??? ???? (Golded) ????????? ? UTF-8. ????????? ??????? ??? ? ?????. ?? ???????? ???????? ? ?????? ????? ???????? ???????? convmv, ???? ???? - ???????? - ?? ?????? (???????? ?????? ??-?? ????, ??? ? ?????? ?????????? ????????????? ? ?????????). -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From netch at netch.kiev.ua Wed Aug 4 17:39:08 2021 From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 17:39:08 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICAgeGZjZTQtdGVy?= =?utf-8?q?minal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <20210804143908.GN724@netch.kiev.ua> hi, Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 19:28:11, vas wrote about "Re: [freebsd] ???? ? KOI8-R ? xfce4-terminal.": > ??? ?? ????, ??? ???? (Golded) ????????? ? UTF-8. Golded ? ???????? ? ?????? ????? ??? screen, ? ???????? ?????? ???? ?????????????? ??? koi8-r. ?? ??????? ?????????? ????? utf-8. > ???? ???? - ???????? - ?? ?????? (???????? ?????? ??-?? ????, ??? ? ?????? > ?????????? ????????????? ? ?????????). ???????? ? ???, ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????????? ?? ????????. ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, ?? ?????? ??????? ???????. ? ?????? koi8 ? ??????? ??, ???????, 2015. ????? ?????? ? ??????? ??? ?? utf-8. -netch- From bag-misc at zurbagan.org Wed Aug 4 17:44:33 2021 From: bag-misc at zurbagan.org (Andrey Blochintsev) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 17:44:33 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?koi8-r?b?4sXEwSDTIEtPSTgtUiDXICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJtaW5hbC4=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 19:19 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Andrey Blochintsev wrote: > > Hi! > > > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:07 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. > > > ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. > > > > > > ? ??? ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ? > > > ????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????, ????????? libiconv ??? > > > ???-?? ???????? ????????? > > > > ??? ??? ???????????? - ?? ????, ?? ??????????? ????? ???? ????: screen > > ????? ?????????????? > > > > ? ????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ??????????, ????? ??????? ???? ???? ??????, ????? > ????? ??????????????? ???????, ?? ????????? ????? KOI8-R, ???????? > UTF-8. ?? ??????? screen ??????? ?????????? ????? LANG ?/??? ?????? LC* ? ??????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????? (?????? ????? ??? ? ??? ??? ? ??? ???? ??? ????????? ?????????) ? .screenrc (??? ? ????????? ?????? screen-?), setenv-? ??? LANG ?/??? LC_* (????? ??? ?????????? ? ??????????? ? screen-??) + defencoding ??? ???? ??????????? screen-?? (??? ?????? encoding ???? ??? ????? ???? ? ????????? ??????) ????????, ???? ? ??????????? screen-?? ????? KOI8-R, ?? ? screenrc: setenv LANG ru_RU.KOI8-R defencoding KOI8-R ? ??? ???????? ?????: setenv LC_MESSAGES C setenv LC_TIME C ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? :) From vvd at unislabs.com Wed Aug 4 17:57:57 2021 From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 17:57:57 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyIHhmY2U0LXRlcm1p?= =?utf-8?q?nal=2E?= In-Reply-To: <20210804143908.GN724@netch.kiev.ua> References: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> <20210804143908.GN724@netch.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <705fefa2-b21a-2112-83f9-a539452d2e25@unislabs.com> 04.08.2021 17:39, Valentin Nechayev ?????: > hi, > > Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 19:28:11, vas wrote about "Re: [freebsd] ???? ? KOI8-R ? xfce4-terminal.": > >> ??? ?? ????, ??? ???? (Golded) ????????? ? UTF-8. > Golded ? ???????? ? ?????? ????? ??? screen, ? ???????? ?????? ???? > ?????????????? ??? koi8-r. > ?? ??????? ?????????? ????? utf-8. > >> ???? ???? - ???????? - ?? ?????? (???????? ?????? ??-?? ????, ??? ? ?????? >> ?????????? ????????????? ? ?????????). > ???????? ? ???, ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????????? ?? ????????. ????? > ??????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, ?? ?????? ??????? ???????. +1 ????????? ????????????? ??????????? ????????? ?? ????? ??????? ?? ????? ????? ? ????????? "??" ?????????. > ? ?????? koi8 ? ??????? ??, ???????, 2015. ????? ?????? ? ??????? ??? > ?? utf-8. From eugene at home.wdc.spb.ru Wed Aug 4 20:01:04 2021 From: eugene at home.wdc.spb.ru (Eugene V. Boontseff) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 20:01:04 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyIHhmY2U0LXRlcm1p?= =?utf-8?q?nal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: <437c7755-0590-fb88-9a37-9492a440190a@home.wdc.spb.ru> Message-ID: On 04.08.2021 05:12, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Eugene V. Boontseff via freebsd wrote: >>> ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? >>> ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? >>> ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, >>> ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R >>> >>> ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? >>> UTF-8. >>> >>> ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? >>> ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. >>> >>> >> ????? ?? ????? ? ? ?????-????????? ? ? ????????? mate. > ? ?????? ? ??????? ?? ????????? > ?? ????, ????? ??. ? ???? ???? ?????? ? koi8-r, ?, ???????? ???? ?????????, ?????????? ????? ?? ??? ?? ssh ?? ????????? ??????????. ? ?????????? ???????. ?????? ? 11.4-STABLE. -- Eugene From yz at yz.kiev.ua Wed Aug 4 20:12:22 2021 From: yz at yz.kiev.ua (George L. Yermulnik) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 20:12:22 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?koi8-r?b?4sXEwSDTIEtPSTgtUiDXICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJtaW5hbC4=?= In-Reply-To: References: <437c7755-0590-fb88-9a37-9492a440190a@home.wdc.spb.ru> Message-ID: <20210804171222.GH36806@yz.kiev.ua> Hello! On Wed, 04 Aug 2021 at 20:01:04 (+0300), Eugene V. Boontseff via freebsd wrote: > >>> ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? > >>> ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? > >>> ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, > >>> ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R > >>> ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? > >>> UTF-8. > >>> ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? > >>> ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. > >> ????? ?? ????? ? ? ?????-????????? ? ? ????????? mate. > > ? ?????? ? ??????? ?? ????????? > ?? ????, ????? ??. ? ???? ???? ?????? ? koi8-r, ?, ???????? ???? > ?????????, ?????????? ????? ?? ??? ?? ssh ?? ????????? ??????????. > ? ?????????? ???????. ?????? ? 11.4-STABLE. ??????, ??? ? ?????, ???????? ??????????? ?????? ? gnome-based ??????????? $ pcregrep '\sgnome\s' x11/{*-terminal,terminator}/Makefile x11/gnome-terminal/Makefile:USES= cpe gettext gmake gnome libtool localbase pathfix \ x11/mate-terminal/Makefile:USES= gettext gmake gnome localbase pathfix perl5 pkgconfig \ x11/xfce4-terminal/Makefile:USES= compiler:c11 gettext-tools gmake gnome pkgconfig tar:bzip2 \ x11/terminator/Makefile:USES= gnome python:3.5+ shebangfix gettext ??? ??? ?????-?? ???????????? -- George L. Yermulnik [YZ-RIPE] From vas at sibptus.ru Thu Aug 5 05:15:47 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:15:47 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: <705fefa2-b21a-2112-83f9-a539452d2e25@unislabs.com> References: <20210804101213.GG36806@yz.kiev.ua> <20210804143908.GN724@netch.kiev.ua> <705fefa2-b21a-2112-83f9-a539452d2e25@unislabs.com> Message-ID: ???????? ???????? via freebsd wrote: > > > > > > > ??? ?? ????, ??? ???? (Golded) ????????? ? UTF-8. > > Golded ? ???????? ? ?????? ????? ??? screen, ? ???????? ?????? ???? > > ?????????????? ??? koi8-r. > > ?? ??????? ?????????? ????? utf-8. > > > > > ???? ???? - ???????? - ?? ?????? (???????? ?????? ??-?? ????, ??? ? ?????? > > > ?????????? ????????????? ? ?????????). > > ???????? ? ???, ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????????? ?? ????????. ????? > > ??????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, ?? ?????? ??????? ???????. > > +1 > > ????????? ????????????? ??????????? ????????? ?? ????? ??????? ?? ????? > ????? ? ????????? "??" ?????????. ?? ???????, ??? ? KOI8-R ??? ????????? ???????? ?? ????????, ???? ????? ???-?? ?????????. ? ?????-?? ???????????? ????????????? ???????????? ????????, ? ??? ??? ?????? ???????? ??-???????. ???????? ????, ??? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ?????? ? ????????? KOI8-R ??? ?????? ?? ?????. -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From vas at sibptus.ru Thu Aug 5 05:21:56 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:21:56 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andrey Blochintsev wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:07 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > ?? ? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ??????, ????????? ???. > > > > ??????????. ???????? Terminator, ??? ?? ?? ???????. > > > > > > > > ? ??? ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ? > > > > ????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????, ????????? libiconv ??? > > > > ???-?? ???????? ????????? > > > > > > ??? ??? ???????????? - ?? ????, ?? ??????????? ????? ???? ????: screen > > > ????? ?????????????? > > > > > > > ? ????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ??????????, ????? ??????? ???? ???? ??????, ????? > > ????? ??????????????? ???????, ?? ????????? ????? KOI8-R, ???????? > > UTF-8. > > ?? ??????? screen ??????? ?????????? ????? LANG ?/??? ?????? LC* ? ??????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????? (?????? ????? ??? ? ??? ??? ? ??? ???? ??? ????????? ?????????) > ? .screenrc (??? ? ????????? ?????? screen-?), setenv-? ??? LANG ?/??? LC_* (????? ??? ?????????? ? ??????????? ? screen-??) + defencoding ??? ???? ??????????? screen-?? (??? ?????? encoding ???? ??? ????? ???? ? ????????? ??????) > > ????????, ???? ? ??????????? screen-?? ????? KOI8-R, ?? ? screenrc: > setenv LANG ru_RU.KOI8-R > defencoding KOI8-R > > ? ??? ???????? ?????: > setenv LC_MESSAGES C > setenv LC_TIME C > ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? :) ?????????? ????? LANG ? ?????? ? ??? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????????? ? ????????? ???????????, ?? ????? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ? .screenrc. ? ????? ??????? ???, ? ?????? ????: Ctrl+A :encoding KOI8-R ? ????? ????????, ??????? ??????? ?? workaround. ???? ??????? ???????? ????????? ???????????? ? ?????. -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From vas at sibptus.ru Thu Aug 5 05:30:50 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:30:50 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICAgeGZjZTQtdGVy?= =?utf-8?q?minal=2E?= In-Reply-To: <20210804171222.GH36806@yz.kiev.ua> References: <437c7755-0590-fb88-9a37-9492a440190a@home.wdc.spb.ru> <20210804171222.GH36806@yz.kiev.ua> Message-ID: George L. Yermulnik wrote: > > > >>> ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? (?) ?? 12.2-RELEASE ???????? ???????? > > >>> ???????? ? xfce4-terminal. ? ???? ?????? ??????-?? ru_RU.UTF-8, ?? > > >>> ???????? ????????? ????????? ?????? ? KOI8-R. ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????, > > >>> ?????? ?????????? ????????? ? xfce4-terminal ?? Cyrillic -> KOI8-R > > > >>> ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? ? ???? ?????????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ? > > >>> UTF-8. > > > >>> ????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????????? ?? ????, ?.?. ???? ?? ??? ????? > > >>> ?????????? ?????, ?? ??? ????? ???????. > > > >> ????? ?? ????? ? ? ?????-????????? ? ? ????????? mate. > > > ? ?????? ? ??????? ?? ????????? > > > ?? ????, ????? ??. ? ???? ???? ?????? ? koi8-r, ?, ???????? ???? > > ?????????, ?????????? ????? ?? ??? ?? ssh ?? ????????? ??????????. > > ? ?????????? ???????. ?????? ? 11.4-STABLE. > > ??????, ??? ? ?????, ???????? ??????????? ?????? ? gnome-based ??????????? > > $ pcregrep '\sgnome\s' x11/{*-terminal,terminator}/Makefile > x11/gnome-terminal/Makefile:USES= cpe gettext gmake gnome libtool localbase pathfix \ > x11/mate-terminal/Makefile:USES= gettext gmake gnome localbase pathfix perl5 pkgconfig \ > x11/xfce4-terminal/Makefile:USES= compiler:c11 gettext-tools gmake gnome pkgconfig tar:bzip2 \ > x11/terminator/Makefile:USES= gnome python:3.5+ shebangfix gettext > > ??? ??? ?????-?? ???????????? ?? ???? ???????. ?????? ???????, ??? Terminator ???? ??????? ?? gnome, ?? ???????????, ??? ? ? ??? ???????? ????. -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet From bag-misc at zurbagan.org Thu Aug 5 11:08:42 2021 From: bag-misc at zurbagan.org (Andrey Blochintsev) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 11:08:42 +0300 Subject: [freebsd] =?koi8-r?b?4sXEwSDTIEtPSTgtUiDXICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJtaW5hbC4=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 09:21 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > ????????, ???? ? ??????????? screen-?? ????? KOI8-R, ?? ? screenrc: > > setenv LANG ru_RU.KOI8-R > > defencoding KOI8-R > > > > ?????????? ????? LANG ? ?????? ? ??? ????? ??????????? ????????? > ???????? ? ???????????? ? ????????? ???????????, ?? ????? ??? ???? ????? > ???????? ?? ? .screenrc. ? ????? ??????? ???, ? ?????? ????: ?? ? ?? ???? ??? ?? screen ??????????: ? ???? ????????, ?? ?????-?? ????????????? host-? ??? ??? ?? ????????? ???????. ??? ???????? ????? ?????, ???????? ????? screen-? detach-???, ? "??????" ?????? ???-?? ??????????. ? ??? ??? ???? ????????? screen c ?????????????? ????? ?? ??? ???????, ??? ????? koi8 > > Ctrl+A :encoding KOI8-R > > ? ????? ????????, ??????? ??????? ?? workaround. ???? ??????? ???????? > ????????? ???????????? ? ?????. > From vas at sibptus.ru Thu Aug 5 11:56:54 2021 From: vas at sibptus.ru (Victor Sudakov) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 15:56:54 +0700 Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0JHQtdC00LAg0YEgS09JOC1SINCyICB4ZmNlNC10ZXJt?= =?utf-8?q?inal=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andrey Blochintsev wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 09:21 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > ????????, ???? ? ??????????? screen-?? ????? KOI8-R, ?? ? screenrc: > > > setenv LANG ru_RU.KOI8-R > > > defencoding KOI8-R > > > > > > > ?????????? ????? LANG ? ?????? ? ??? ????? ??????????? ????????? > > ???????? ? ???????????? ? ????????? ???????????, ?? ????? ??? ???? ????? > > ???????? ?? ? .screenrc. ? ????? ??????? ???, ? ?????? ????: > > ?? ? ?? ???? ??? ?? screen ??????????: ? ???? ????????, ?? ?????-?? ????????????? host-? ??? ??? ?? ????????? ???????. ??? ???????? ????? ?????, ???????? ????? screen-? detach-???, ? "??????" ?????? ???-?? ??????????. ? ??? ??? ???? ????????? screen c ?????????????? ????? ?? ??? ???????, ??? ????? koi8 ?, ????? ?????. ? ?????? ?????? (? ???????? ???????????????) ? ???????? ????????. > > > > Ctrl+A :encoding KOI8-R > > > > ? ????? ????????, ??????? ??????? ?? workaround. ???? ??????? ???????? > > ????????? ???????????? ? ?????. > > -- Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE http://vas.tomsk.ru/ 2:5005/49 at fidonet