From yaroslav at shvets.name  Wed Dec  1 21:01:00 2021
From: yaroslav at shvets.name (Yaroslav Shvets)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 21:01:00 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdC90L7RgdGC0Lgg0YEg0YHQtdGC0Yw=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
Message-ID: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>

Hello All.

FreeBSD 12.2-releng
???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.

??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
?????????:

??? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ? sendmail, ? dovecot.
`netstat -an` ??????????, ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????????.
??? ????, ??????????? telnet'?? ?? ??????????, ?? ?? ??????????.
?? ?????????? ?? localhost, ?? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????????.
?? ????? ???????????? ? ?????? ?????, ?? ?? ?????????? ? ???????,
?? ????? ???????????? ? ??????? ??? ??????, ? ? ????? ????????????? -
??? ?????. ????? ???????, ??? ????? ???????????? ?????????
????? ????????/?? ???????? ? ????????? ???????.

??????? ???????? ??? ????? ????????, ??? ??????? ?????.
? ??? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????????.
??????, ?????-?? ?????.
Sendmail - ???????,
dovecot-2.3.17_1

(ssh ??? ???? ???????? ?????????)

?? <= 12.2-releng ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????????
??? ???????? ??? ???????????: ???? ???? ????????? ? ??????? ??
???????????? - ?? ???????????? ?????.

???-?????? ?????, ??? ? ??? ????? ???????????

-- 
Yaroslav Shvets

From tasic at academ.kiev.ua  Wed Dec  1 21:10:16 2021
From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 21:10:16 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
Message-ID: <6A42F0DA-8605-453C-BC80-98DA3E1B5D2D@academ.kiev.ua>



> On 1 Dec 2021, at 21:01, Yaroslav Shvets <yaroslav at shvets.name> wrote:
> 
> Hello All.

?? ???? ?????????????, ????? ????, ?? ???? ???????, ?????? ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????????
?? 13, ?? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????? DNS. ? ??? ???????? ??? ?????? ????? ????????????

> 
> FreeBSD 12.2-releng
> ???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.
> 
> ??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
> ?????????:
> 
> ??? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ? sendmail, ? dovecot.
> `netstat -an` ??????????, ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????????.
> ??? ????, ??????????? telnet'?? ?? ??????????, ?? ?? ??????????.
> ?? ?????????? ?? localhost, ?? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????????.
> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ?????? ?????, ?? ?? ?????????? ? ???????,
> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ??????? ??? ??????, ? ? ????? ????????????? -
> ??? ?????. ????? ???????, ??? ????? ???????????? ?????????
> ????? ????????/?? ???????? ? ????????? ???????.
> 
> ??????? ???????? ??? ????? ????????, ??? ??????? ?????.
> ? ??? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????????.
> ??????, ?????-?? ?????.
> Sendmail - ???????,
> dovecot-2.3.17_1
> 
> (ssh ??? ???? ???????? ?????????)
> 
> ?? <= 12.2-releng ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????????
> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????: ???? ???? ????????? ? ??????? ??
> ???????????? - ?? ???????????? ?????.
> 
> ???-?????? ?????, ??? ? ??? ????? ???????????
> 
> -- 
> Yaroslav Shvets
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd mailing list
> freebsd at uafug.org.ua
> http://mailman.uafug.org.ua/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

--
Taras Heichenko
tasic at academ.kiev.ua






From eugen at grosbein.net  Wed Dec  1 23:31:35 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 04:31:35 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdC90L7RgdGC0Lgg0YEg0YHQtdGC0Yw=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
Message-ID: <46a396ab-4511-eddf-85a0-900b8454893c@grosbein.net>

02.12.2021 2:01, Yaroslav Shvets ?????:
> Hello All.
> 
> FreeBSD 12.2-releng
> ???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.
> 
> ??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
> ?????????:
> 
> ??? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ? sendmail, ? dovecot.
> `netstat -an` ??????????, ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????????.
> ??? ????, ??????????? telnet'?? ?? ??????????, ?? ?? ??????????.
> ?? ?????????? ?? localhost, ?? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????????.
> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ?????? ?????, ?? ?? ?????????? ? ???????,
> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ??????? ??? ??????, ? ? ????? ????????????? -
> ??? ?????. ????? ???????, ??? ????? ???????????? ?????????
> ????? ????????/?? ???????? ? ????????? ???????.
> 
> ??????? ???????? ??? ????? ????????, ??? ??????? ?????.
> ? ??? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????????.
> ??????, ?????-?? ?????.
> Sendmail - ???????,
> dovecot-2.3.17_1
> 
> (ssh ??? ???? ???????? ?????????)
> 
> ?? <= 12.2-releng ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????????
> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????: ???? ???? ????????? ? ??????? ??
> ???????????? - ?? ???????????? ?????.
> 
> ???-?????? ?????, ??? ? ??? ????? ???????????

??? ?????? ????? ??????????. ??? ?????? "?? ??????????" - connection refused? ????????
??? ?????????? tcpdump -npi lo0 ?

"??????? ???????? ?????" - ??? ???????? ? ???? ???????? ?????? ipfw ?? ??????
???? ??, ?? ?????? ?? ????????, ???? ?????? ???????? ???????? ???????
sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0 ?

? ???????? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ??? 13.0-RELEASE ??? 13.0-STABLE?




From yaroslav at shvets.name  Thu Dec  2 01:31:31 2021
From: yaroslav at shvets.name (Yaroslav Shvets)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 01:31:31 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <6A42F0DA-8605-453C-BC80-98DA3E1B5D2D@academ.kiev.ua>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <6A42F0DA-8605-453C-BC80-98DA3E1B5D2D@academ.kiev.ua>
Message-ID: <5p81o174-58p5-4591-3nrs-3738854p5r0@fuirgf.anzr>

Hello Taras Heichenko.

On Wed, 1 Dec 2021, 21:10, you wrote:

>> On 1 Dec 2021, at 21:01, Yaroslav Shvets <yaroslav at shvets.name> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All.
>
> ?? ???? ?????????????, ????? ????, ?? ???? ???????, ?????? ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????????
> ?? 13, ?? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????? DNS. ? ??? ???????? ??? ?????? ????? ????????????
>
>>
>> FreeBSD 12.2-releng
>> ???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.
>>
>> ??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
>> ?????????:
>>
>> ??? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ? sendmail, ? dovecot.
>> `netstat -an` ??????????, ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????????.
>> ??? ????, ??????????? telnet'?? ?? ??????????, ?? ?? ??????????.
>> ?? ?????????? ?? localhost, ?? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????????.
>> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ?????? ?????, ?? ?? ?????????? ? ???????,
>> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ??????? ??? ??????, ? ? ????? ????????????? -
>> ??? ?????. ????? ???????, ??? ????? ???????????? ?????????
>> ????? ????????/?? ???????? ? ????????? ???????.
>>
>> ??????? ???????? ??? ????? ????????, ??? ??????? ?????.
>> ? ??? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????????.
>> ??????, ?????-?? ?????.
>> Sendmail - ???????,
>> dovecot-2.3.17_1
>>
>> (ssh ??? ???? ???????? ?????????)
>>
>> ?? <= 12.2-releng ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????????
>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????: ???? ???? ????????? ? ??????? ??
>> ???????????? - ?? ???????????? ?????.
>>
>> ???-?????? ?????, ??? ? ??? ????? ???????????
>>
>> --
>> Yaroslav Shvets
>> _______________________________________________
>> freebsd mailing list
>> freebsd at uafug.org.ua
>> http://mailman.uafug.org.ua/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

???. ???? ?? ? ??????????.
? ?? ? ???????? ipfw.
???? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? ??? via lo

-- 
Yaroslav Shvets

From yaroslav at shvets.name  Thu Dec  2 01:41:05 2021
From: yaroslav at shvets.name (Yaroslav Shvets)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 01:41:05 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdC90L7RgdGC0Lgg0YEg0YHQtdGC0Yw=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <46a396ab-4511-eddf-85a0-900b8454893c@grosbein.net>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <46a396ab-4511-eddf-85a0-900b8454893c@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <qp87s2q4-5o4n-3846-s894-p8nn8206s4q@fuirgf.anzr>

Hello Eugene.

On Wed, 1 Dec 2021, 23:31, you wrote:

> 02.12.2021 2:01, Yaroslav Shvets ?????:
>> Hello All.
>>
>> FreeBSD 12.2-releng
>> ???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.
>>
>> ??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
>> ?????????:
>>
>> ??? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ? sendmail, ? dovecot.
>> `netstat -an` ??????????, ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????????.
>> ??? ????, ??????????? telnet'?? ?? ??????????, ?? ?? ??????????.
>> ?? ?????????? ?? localhost, ?? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????????.
>> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ?????? ?????, ?? ?? ?????????? ? ???????,
>> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ??????? ??? ??????, ? ? ????? ????????????? -
>> ??? ?????. ????? ???????, ??? ????? ???????????? ?????????
>> ????? ????????/?? ???????? ? ????????? ???????.
>>
>> ??????? ???????? ??? ????? ????????, ??? ??????? ?????.
>> ? ??? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????????.
>> ??????, ?????-?? ?????.
>> Sendmail - ???????,
>> dovecot-2.3.17_1
>>
>> (ssh ??? ???? ???????? ?????????)
>>
>> ?? <= 12.2-releng ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????????
>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????: ???? ???? ????????? ? ??????? ??
>> ???????????? - ?? ???????????? ?????.
>>
>> ???-?????? ?????, ??? ? ??? ????? ???????????
>
> ??? ?????? ????? ??????????. ??? ?????? "?? ??????????" - connection refused? ????????

telnet 127.0.0.1 110
???? ??????? - ???????

???, ??? ????????? ????????????:
110 ??? ???????? ???????????, ??
????????? 995, ??? 143.
?????????????? ?? ?????.

> ??? ?????????? tcpdump -npi lo0 ?

????????. ?????? ????????? ????????????.
??????? ?? ???????????? ????? ???.

> "??????? ???????? ?????" - ??? ???????? ? ???? ???????? ?????? ipfw ?? ??????

???, ?????? `service dovecot restart`
??? `cd /etc/mail && make stop start`

> ???? ??, ?? ?????? ?? ????????, ???? ?????? ???????? ???????? ???????
> sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0 ?

???????? ?????? ???????? ??? ?????????, ?? ?? ????????

> ? ???????? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ??? 13.0-RELEASE ??? 13.0-STABLE?
???. ????????, ??? ???????? ????????? ? ???????????.

?????? ?????, ??? ???????? ? ??????????? ??? ? ???? ????? -
?????? ??? ??????????? ???????????? ?? sendmail ? dovecot.

?? ????????: ??? ????????? ??? ESXi ?????-?? ?? ?????
??????. ????? ?? ?????, ?? ??????? 6.7

-- 
Yaroslav Shvets

From yaroslav at shvets.name  Thu Dec  2 01:44:03 2021
From: yaroslav at shvets.name (Yaroslav Shvets)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 01:44:03 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <5p81o174-58p5-4591-3nrs-3738854p5r0@fuirgf.anzr>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <6A42F0DA-8605-453C-BC80-98DA3E1B5D2D@academ.kiev.ua>
 <5p81o174-58p5-4591-3nrs-3738854p5r0@fuirgf.anzr>
Message-ID: <q28pr1n1-6868-933q-p3qr-759q69q180@negpncvgny.hn>

Hello.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, 01:31, you wrote:

> Hello Taras Heichenko.
>
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2021, 21:10, you wrote:
>
>>> On 1 Dec 2021, at 21:01, Yaroslav Shvets <yaroslav at shvets.name> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All.
>> 
>> ?? ???? ?????????????, ????? ????, ?? ???? ???????, ?????? ??? ????? 
>> ????????? ??? ????????
>> ?? 13, ?? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????? DNS. ? ??? ???????? ??? ?????? 
>> ????? ????????????
>> 
>>> 
>>> FreeBSD 12.2-releng
>>> ???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
>>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.
>>> 
>>> ??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
>>> ?????????:
>>> 
>>> ??? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ? sendmail, ? dovecot.
>>> `netstat -an` ??????????, ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????????.
>>> ??? ????, ??????????? telnet'?? ?? ??????????, ?? ?? ??????????.
>>> ?? ?????????? ?? localhost, ?? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????????.
>>> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ?????? ?????, ?? ?? ?????????? ? ???????,
>>> ?? ????? ???????????? ? ??????? ??? ??????, ? ? ????? ????????????? -
>>> ??? ?????. ????? ???????, ??? ????? ???????????? ?????????
>>> ????? ????????/?? ???????? ? ????????? ???????.
>>> 
>>> ??????? ???????? ??? ????? ????????, ??? ??????? ?????.
>>> ? ??? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????????.
>>> ??????, ?????-?? ?????.
>>> Sendmail - ???????,
>>> dovecot-2.3.17_1
>>> 
>>> (ssh ??? ???? ???????? ?????????)
>>> 
>>> ?? <= 12.2-releng ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????????
>>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????: ???? ???? ????????? ? ??????? ??
>>> ???????????? - ?? ???????????? ?????.
>>> 
>>> ???-?????? ?????, ??? ? ??? ????? ???????????
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Yaroslav Shvets
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> freebsd mailing list
>>> freebsd at uafug.org.ua
>>> http://mailman.uafug.org.ua/mailman/listinfo/freebsd
>
> ???. ???? ?? ? ??????????.
> ? ?? ? ???????? ipfw.
> ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? ??? via lo

??? ??????? ?????????????? telnet'?? ???????????
?????? ????????????? ? ip-??????? ???????????.
? ?????? ?? ?????? bind ????????.

-- 
Yaroslav Shvets

From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Dec  2 08:09:53 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 13:09:53 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <qp87s2q4-5o4n-3846-s894-p8nn8206s4q@fuirgf.anzr>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <46a396ab-4511-eddf-85a0-900b8454893c@grosbein.net>
 <qp87s2q4-5o4n-3846-s894-p8nn8206s4q@fuirgf.anzr>
Message-ID: <598c162d-24ae-2504-4e5a-31d2cd7296f4@grosbein.net>

02.12.2021 6:41, Yaroslav Shvets ?????:

>>> FreeBSD 12.2-releng
>>> ???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
>>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.
>>>
>>> ??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
>>> ?????????:

[skip]

> ????????. ?????? ????????? ????????????.
> ??????? ?? ???????????? ????? ???.

?? ????? ??????? dot-zero (13.0) ?? ??????? ???????.
?????????? ????? ?? stable/12 ???? ?? ?? ??????? 13.1

?? ???????? ?????? ??????? ?????.


From yaroslav at shvets.name  Thu Dec  2 09:26:45 2021
From: yaroslav at shvets.name (Yaroslav Shvets)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 09:26:45 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <598c162d-24ae-2504-4e5a-31d2cd7296f4@grosbein.net>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <46a396ab-4511-eddf-85a0-900b8454893c@grosbein.net>
 <qp87s2q4-5o4n-3846-s894-p8nn8206s4q@fuirgf.anzr>
 <598c162d-24ae-2504-4e5a-31d2cd7296f4@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <sq92n365-25r0-283-5532-qn5r35n70s5@fuirgf.anzr>

Hello Eugene Grosbein.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, 08:09, you wrote:

> 02.12.2021 6:41, Yaroslav Shvets ?????:
>
>>>> FreeBSD 12.2-releng
>>>> ???????? ??????: sendmail, dovecot
>>>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. ipfw ???????? ???????.
>>>>
>>>> ??? ???????? ?? 13.0-releng, ? ????? ?? 13-stable ??????????? ????????
>>>> ?????????:
>
> [skip]
>
>> ????????. ?????? ????????? ????????????.
>> ??????? ?? ???????????? ????? ???.
>
> ?? ????? ??????? dot-zero (13.0) ?? ??????? ???????.
> ?????????? ????? ?? stable/12 ???? ?? ?? ??????? 13.1
>
> ?? ???????? ?????? ??????? ?????.

??????, ??? ? ??????????.
? ??? ???? ??????.

-- 
Yaroslav Shvets

From tasic at academ.kiev.ua  Thu Dec  2 11:31:37 2021
From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:31:37 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y4g0L/RgNC4INC/0LXRgNC10YXQvtC00LUg0L3QsCAxMy3Rg9GOINCy0LU=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YDRgdC40Y4=?=
In-Reply-To: <q28pr1n1-6868-933q-p3qr-759q69q180@negpncvgny.hn>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <6A42F0DA-8605-453C-BC80-98DA3E1B5D2D@academ.kiev.ua>
 <5p81o174-58p5-4591-3nrs-3738854p5r0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <q28pr1n1-6868-933q-p3qr-759q69q180@negpncvgny.hn>
Message-ID: <E6627C5F-B016-4B2E-BD1A-CAFA7FC672DE@academ.kiev.ua>

Hi!

> On 2 Dec 2021, at 01:44, Yaroslav Shvets <yaroslav at shvets.name> wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, 01:31, you wrote:
> 
>> 
>> ???. ???? ?? ? ??????????.
>> ? ?? ? ???????? ipfw.
>> ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? ??? via lo
> 
> ??? ??????? ?????????????? telnet'?? ???????????
> ?????? ????????????? ? ip-??????? ???????????.
> ? ?????? ?? ?????? bind ????????.

?? ????????? ?? ????? ??????. :) ?? ????? ?? ????????, ???? ????? ?? ??????????? ?? IP
? ??????????, ???????, ? ??????? ?? ???????????, ???????? ????????? backresolv ?? IP,
? ???????? ?? ?????????.

> 
> -- 
> Yaroslav Shvets
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd mailing list
> freebsd at uafug.org.ua
> http://mailman.uafug.org.ua/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

--
Taras Heichenko
tasic at academ.kiev.ua






From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Dec  2 12:19:53 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 17:19:53 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
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02.12.2021 16:31, Taras Heichenko ?????:
> Hi!
> 
>> On 2 Dec 2021, at 01:44, Yaroslav Shvets <yaroslav at shvets.name> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, 01:31, you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ???. ???? ?? ? ??????????.
>>> ? ?? ? ???????? ipfw.
>>> ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? ??? via lo
>>
>> ??? ??????? ?????????????? telnet'?? ???????????
>> ?????? ????????????? ? ip-??????? ???????????.
>> ? ?????? ?? ?????? bind ????????.
> 
> ?? ????????? ?? ????? ??????. :) ?? ????? ?? ????????, ???? ????? ?? ??????????? ?? IP
> ? ??????????, ???????, ? ??????? ?? ???????????, ???????? ????????? backresolv ?? IP,
> ? ???????? ?? ?????????.

??????????, ??????????? ????????? ?? IP ???????, ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? IP,
?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ????? ????, ??? ??????????? ???????????.



From k-nike at yandex.ru  Thu Dec  2 12:34:32 2021
From: k-nike at yandex.ru (Nike)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 13:34:32 +0300
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From tasic at academ.kiev.ua  Thu Dec  2 13:46:49 2021
From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 13:46:49 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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In-Reply-To: <fb5b99fb-59ff-5e03-7ab1-301e96cb52c7@grosbein.net>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
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Message-ID: <1E0B9516-09FF-4473-A63D-869355A2DD81@academ.kiev.ua>

Hi!

> On 2 Dec 2021, at 12:19, Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> ??? ??????? ?????????????? telnet'?? ???????????
>>> ?????? ????????????? ? ip-??????? ???????????.
>>> ? ?????? ?? ?????? bind ????????.
>> 
>> ?? ????????? ?? ????? ??????. :) ?? ????? ?? ????????, ???? ????? ?? ??????????? ?? IP
>> ? ??????????, ???????, ? ??????? ?? ???????????, ???????? ????????? backresolv ?? IP,
>> ? ???????? ?? ?????????.
> 
> ??????????, ??????????? ????????? ?? IP ???????, ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? IP,
> ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ????? ????, ??? ??????????? ???????????.

?? ???? ????????, ??????? ???? ????, ???????? ?????? ???. ??????????? ???????????, ??? ??? ?? ??????? ????????????,
??? ????-?? ?????????. ? ??? ??, ???? ?????????, ? ???????? ???????? "??? ???????? ????? ???". ? ???? ???????? ?? ??????????,
?? ?? ??????? ??????? ??? ? ????? ????????? ? ?? ???? ????????????. ??????? ???? ?? ?????, ??? ?? ??? ??????? ?? tcpdump ? 
??????????, ??? ??????????, ???. ? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ? ?? ??, ?? ??????? ????????????.

> 
> 

--
Taras Heichenko
tasic at academ.kiev.ua






From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Dec  2 18:40:19 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 23:40:19 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
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Message-ID: <3071fbda-fa01-ebf2-8845-15c4a719ce12@grosbein.net>

02.12.2021 18:46, Taras Heichenko ?????:
> Hi!
> 
>> On 2 Dec 2021, at 12:19, Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> ??? ??????? ?????????????? telnet'?? ???????????
>>>> ?????? ????????????? ? ip-??????? ???????????.
>>>> ? ?????? ?? ?????? bind ????????.
>>>
>>> ?? ????????? ?? ????? ??????. :) ?? ????? ?? ????????, ???? ????? ?? ??????????? ?? IP
>>> ? ??????????, ???????, ? ??????? ?? ???????????, ???????? ????????? backresolv ?? IP,
>>> ? ???????? ?? ?????????.
>>
>> ??????????, ??????????? ????????? ?? IP ???????, ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? IP,
>> ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ????? ????, ??? ??????????? ???????????.
> 
> ?? ???? ????????, ??????? ???? ????, ???????? ?????? ???. ??????????? ???????????, ??? ??? ?? ??????? ????????????,
> ??? ????-?? ?????????. ? ??? ??, ???? ?????????, ? ???????? ???????? "??? ???????? ????? ???". ? ???? ???????? ?? ??????????,
> ?? ?? ??????? ??????? ??? ? ????? ????????? ? ?? ???? ????????????. ??????? ???? ?? ?????, ??? ?? ??? ??????? ?? tcpdump ? 
> ??????????, ??? ??????????, ???. ? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ? ?? ??, ?? ??????? ????????????.

? ?????? ? TCP ??????? ????? ??????? ? ??????? ????????? ??????????????? handshake (SYN, SYN+ACK, ACK)
? ??????????, ??????? ??????? ????????? ????? TCP ?????? ????? ????? ??????, ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ?
? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??????, ?? ? ??? ?? ????? ?? ???????
????? "connection established", ?? ???? ???????? ??????????? ?????????? ?? ????, ??????????
??? ?????? ?????? ?????????????? ??? ???.



From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Dec  2 18:45:14 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 23:45:14 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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In-Reply-To: <703741638441037@mail.yandex.ru>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
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Message-ID: <5194925a-4ef7-c606-02e7-fb4de91b78f1@grosbein.net>

02.12.2021 17:34, Nike ?????:
> ???? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ????????? ?? dhcp. ?????? ?????????? ??????, ??? ??????????? ????.
> ? ??? ??????? ????, ????? ???????? ???? usb'????.

?????? ??, ??????? ?????.

?????? ifconfig ?? ????????? ? ??????. ??? ?????? ? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?????????? ??? ? ????? ???????? ? ?????????,
?? ???????? ????????.




From bag-misc at zurbagan.org  Thu Dec  2 18:49:40 2021
From: bag-misc at zurbagan.org (Andrey Blochintsev)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 18:49:40 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
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Message-ID: <Yaj5JBWSH6BrvZg+@zurbagan.org>

Hi!

On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 23:45 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:

> 02.12.2021 17:34, Nike ?????:
> > ???? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ????????? ?? dhcp. ?????? ?????????? ??????, ??? ??????????? ????.
> > ? ??? ??????? ????, ????? ???????? ???? usb'????.
> 
> ?????? ??, ??????? ?????.
> 
> ?????? ifconfig ?? ????????? ? ??????. ??? ?????? ? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?????????? ??? ? ????? ???????? ? ?????????,
> ?? ???????? ????????.


?? ? netstat-?? ?? ?????? ??????????, ??????? ???-?? ?????? ???? ??? ???. ? ?? ????? ??????? ???????.


From yaroslav at shvets.name  Fri Dec  3 15:49:28 2021
From: yaroslav at shvets.name (Yaroslav Shvets)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 15:49:28 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <703741638441037@mail.yandex.ru>
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Message-ID: <r5p6563-7422-594-512s-511r5sn26566@negpncvgny.hn>

Hello Andrey Blochintsev.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, 18:49, you wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 23:45 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
>
>> 02.12.2021 17:34, Nike ?????:
>>> ???? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ????????? ?? dhcp. ?????? ?????????? ??????, ??? ??????????? ????.
>>> ? ??? ??????? ????, ????? ???????? ???? usb'????.
>>
>> ?????? ??, ??????? ?????.
>>
>> ?????? ifconfig ?? ????????? ? ??????. ??? ?????? ? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?????????? ??? ? ????? ???????? ? ?????????,
>> ?? ???????? ????????.
>
> ?? ? netstat-?? ?? ?????? ??????????, ??????? ???-?? ?????? ???? ??? ???. ? ?? ????? ??????? ???????.

`netstat -an | grep "LISTEN"`
?????????, ??? ??? ??????????? ????? ?????????

-- 
Yaroslav Shvets

From yaroslav at shvets.name  Fri Dec  3 16:00:59 2021
From: yaroslav at shvets.name (Yaroslav Shvets)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 16:00:59 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [freebsd]
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In-Reply-To: <5194925a-4ef7-c606-02e7-fb4de91b78f1@grosbein.net>
References: <59n663on-pq36-6o17-55s8-96318q614q0@fuirgf.anzr>
 <703741638441037@mail.yandex.ru>
 <5194925a-4ef7-c606-02e7-fb4de91b78f1@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <9rsr653-qr1p-2138-s66-ssso69731q6s@fuirgf.anzr>

Hello Eugene Grosbein.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, 18:45, you wrote:

> 02.12.2021 17:34, Nike ?????:
>> ???? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ????????? ?? dhcp. ?????? ?????????? ??????, ??? ??????????? ????.
>> ? ??? ??????? ????, ????? ???????? ???? usb'????.
>
> ?????? ??, ??????? ?????.
>
> ?????? ifconfig ?? ????????? ? ??????. ??? ?????? ? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?????????? ??? ? ????? ???????? ? ?????????,
> ?? ???????? ????????.

???, ??? ?? ?????????: ????????? ?? 12.2-releng. ??? ???????? ??????.

ip-?????? ???? ???????????
??????? ?? usb: em0, em1, em2, em3 ? ?.?.

-- 
Yaroslav Shvets

From nick at i11.co  Fri Dec 10 12:21:08 2021
From: nick at i11.co (Nick Kostirya)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 12:21:08 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] Ryzen 5 5500U and bhyve
Message-ID: <20211210102108.1dabde3a@i11.co>

??????.

????????, ??? ??? ????????????? bhyve ????? POPCNT ? NRIPS.

? dmess ???? POPCNT, ?? ?????? NRIPS ???? ?????? SVM: NP,NRIP
??? ???? ????? ??? ???????? bhyve ?? Ryzen 5 5500U?



CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics          (2096.11-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x860f81  Family=0x17  Model=0x68  Stepping=1
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ed8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,<b30>>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x90cf757<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr>
  SVM: NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
avail memory = 6007091200 (5728 MB)

From spell at itl.ua  Wed Dec 29 18:17:01 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:17:01 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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In-Reply-To: <6a094f5c-8295-89ad-5968-9f965019eba7@grosbein.net>
References: <6a094f5c-8295-89ad-5968-9f965019eba7@grosbein.net>
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Message-ID: <4301a0ec3aab20b1dce5b4db7ece7748@itl.ua>

19 ?????? 2021 ?., 20:39, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

>> 19 ?????? 2021 ?., 20:04, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>> 
>>> ?? ??? ???, ???. ???? ????????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???????? ??? ?? ????? ?????,
>>> ?? ??? ??? ????, ??????? ?????????? CPU reset.
>>> 
>>> 13.0 ???? ?????????? ?? ????????????? ?????? (dot zero release), ??? ??? ???????? ???
>>> ?????? ?????, ???? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ????, ? ???????, 12.2-RELEASE ????? ???? ??? ??.
>>> 
>>> ????? ????? ????????? ?? 12.2-RELEASE.
>> 
>> 12.2 - ?? ?? ???????.
>> 
>> ??????? ???????? ???? (???? ?????? ??????), ??? ????? ??? ? ???? ????????.
>> ?????????? ????????????
> 
> ?????? ????? ??????? PR ? ???????? ? ???? ??? ??? ?????? (??? ??????? ? ??????? ???????????),
> ??????? ???? ? ?????? 11.2

??? ???????.
1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ? ?? ??????).
2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI (???? ???? ????? ?? SATA - Toshiba MQ01ACF032).

? ??????.
???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ????? ????????????? ?? AHCI?

From vvd at unislabs.com  Wed Dec 29 18:51:10 2021
From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 19:51:10 +0300
Subject: [freebsd]
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Message-ID: <377a8915-5741-499e-ca53-777061194442@unislabs.com>

29.12.2021 19:17, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 19 ?????? 2021 ?., 20:39, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>
>>> 19 ?????? 2021 ?., 20:04, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>>>
>>>> ?? ??? ???, ???. ???? ????????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???????? ??? ?? ????? ?????,
>>>> ?? ??? ??? ????, ??????? ?????????? CPU reset.
>>>>
>>>> 13.0 ???? ?????????? ?? ????????????? ?????? (dot zero release), ??? ??? ???????? ???
>>>> ?????? ?????, ???? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ????, ? ???????, 12.2-RELEASE ????? ???? ??? ??.
>>>>
>>>> ????? ????? ????????? ?? 12.2-RELEASE.
>>> 12.2 - ?? ?? ???????.
>>>
>>> ??????? ???????? ???? (???? ?????? ??????), ??? ????? ??? ? ???? ????????.
>>> ?????????? ????????????
>> ?????? ????? ??????? PR ? ???????? ? ???? ??? ??? ?????? (??? ??????? ? ??????? ???????????),
>> ??????? ???? ? ?????? 11.2
> ??? ???????.
> 1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ? ?? ??????).
> 2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI (???? ???? ????? ?? SATA - Toshiba MQ01ACF032).
>
> ? ??????.
> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ????? ????????????? ?? AHCI?

????? ????? ? ???? ?? ?????????? /dev/ada* - ???? fstab ?? ???? ????? 
??????.
??????? ????? ?????????? ????????? ????????????? ? ????? ??????, ? 
????????? ?? ??????? ??? ??????.


From spell at itl.ua  Wed Dec 29 19:30:51 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:30:51 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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29 ??????? 2021 ?., 18:51, "???????? ???????? via freebsd" <freebsd at uafug.org.ua> ???????:

>> 2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI (???? ???? ????? ?? SATA -
>> Toshiba MQ01ACF032).
>> 
>> ? ??????.
>> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ????? ????????????? ?? AHCI?
> 
> ????? ????? ? ???? ?? ?????????? /dev/ada* - ???? fstab ?? ???? ?????
> ??????.

?.?. ??????? ?????? ?? ???? ? ahci ? ide ??????????? ? ahci-??????? ??????? ??, ??? ???? ???????? ??? ide, ? ?????????

> ??????? ????? ?????????? ????????? ????????????? ? ????? ??????, ?
> ????????? ?? ??????? ??? ??????.

???????, ??? ??? ???-???? ???????.

From petr at petrovich.kiev.ua  Wed Dec 29 20:46:03 2021
From: petr at petrovich.kiev.ua (Serge Negodyuck)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 20:46:03 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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??, 29 ???. 2021 ?., 19:31 <spell at itl.ua>:

> 29 ??????? 2021 ?., 18:51, "???????? ???????? via freebsd" <
> freebsd at uafug.org.ua> ???????:
>
> >> 2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI
> (???? ???? ????? ?? SATA -
> >> Toshiba MQ01ACF032).
> >>
> >> ? ??????.
> >> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ?????
> ????????????? ?? AHCI?
> >
> > ????? ????? ? ???? ?? ?????????? /dev/ada* - ???? fstab ?? ???? ?????
> > ??????.
>
> ?.?. ??????? ?????? ?? ???? ? ahci ? ide ??????????? ? ahci-???????
> ??????? ??, ??? ???? ???????? ??? ide, ? ?????????
>

??.
ahci ?? ????????? ? ide ??? ?????????????? DMA, ??????? ?????? ??????,
??????? ???????? ?? ????, ????????? ???????????? ????????. ?.?. ahci -
??????????  ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ?? ?? ????? ???????.

>
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From oleg at theweb.org.ua  Wed Dec 29 20:54:28 2021
From: oleg at theweb.org.ua (Oleg V. Nauman)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 20:54:28 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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On 2021 M12 29, Wed 18:17:01 EET spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 19 ?????? 2021 ?., 20:39, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> >> 19 ?????? 2021 ?., 20:04, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> >>> ?? ??? ???, ???. ???? ????????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ???????, ? ?????
> >>> ???????? ??? ?? ????? ?????, ?? ??? ??? ????, ??????? ?????????? CPU
> >>> reset.
> >>> 
> >>> 13.0 ???? ?????????? ?? ????????????? ?????? (dot zero release), ??? ???
> >>> ???????? ??? ?????? ?????, ???? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ????, ? ???????,
> >>> 12.2-RELEASE ????? ???? ??? ??.
> >>> 
> >>> ????? ????? ????????? ?? 12.2-RELEASE.
> >> 
> >> 12.2 - ?? ?? ???????.
> >> 
> >> ??????? ???????? ???? (???? ?????? ??????), ??? ????? ??? ? ????
> >> ????????.
> >> ?????????? ????????????
> > 
> > ?????? ????? ??????? PR ? ???????? ? ???? ??? ??? ?????? (??? ??????? ?
> > ??????? ???????????), ??????? ???? ? ?????? 11.2
> 
> ??? ???????.
> 1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ??????? ????????
> ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ? ?? ??????).
> 2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI (???? 
> ???? ????? ?? SATA - Toshiba MQ01ACF032).

 ???-?? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ( ??????, ??????? ) ???????, ??????? ?? 
?????? ????????? ? ahci(4), ?? ???????? ? ata(4). ? BIOS ????? Enhanced ??? 
????? ?????? IDE ( ?????? ???? ????? SATA ? PATA ). ???? ???? ???????, ?? 
????? ??????????? GENERIC . ?? ???????????? ????? ????????? ahci(4), ? 
????????? ?????? ???????????? ?? memstick.
 ? ?????? ?????? ? ata(4) ? ???? ???????? ? SATA ? PATA ?????.

> 
> ? ??????.
> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ?????
> ????????????? ?? AHCI? 

 ?????? ??????????, ?????? ???????? ? Enhanced ?? IDE - ??????????. 


From spell at itl.ua  Wed Dec 29 21:33:19 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 19:33:19 +0000
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29 ??????? 2021 ?., 20:46, "Serge Negodyuck" <petr at petrovich.kiev.ua (mailto:petr at petrovich.kiev.ua?to=%22Serge%20Negodyuck%22%20<petr at petrovich.kiev.ua>)> ???????:
 ??, 29 ???. 2021 ?., 19:31 <spell at itl.ua (mailto:spell at itl.ua)>: 29 ??????? 2021 ?., 18:51, "???????? ???????? via freebsd" <freebsd at uafug.org.ua (mailto:freebsd at uafug.org.ua)> ???????:

>> 2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI (???? ???? ????? ?? SATA -
>> Toshiba MQ01ACF032).
>>
>> ? ??????.
>> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ????? ????????????? ?? AHCI?
>
> ????? ????? ? ???? ?? ?????????? /dev/ada* - ???? fstab ?? ???? ?????
> ??????.

?.?. ??????? ?????? ?? ???? ? ahci ? ide ??????????? ? ahci-??????? ??????? ??, ??? ???? ???????? ??? ide, ? ?????????    ??. ahci ?? ????????? ? ide ??? ?????????????? DMA, ??????? ?????? ??????, ??????? ???????? ?? ????, ????????? ???????????? ????????. ?.?. ahci - ?????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ?? ?? ????? ???????. 
???????!
???????????? ???? ??????, ??? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ?? ???????? (??????, ? ??? DMA ????, ? ????????? ????).
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From spell at itl.ua  Wed Dec 29 21:44:43 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 19:44:43 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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29 ??????? 2021 ?., 20:54, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:

> ???-?? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ( ??????, ??????? ) ???????, ??????? ??
> ?????? ????????? ? ahci(4), ?? ???????? ? ata(4). ? BIOS ????? Enhanced ???
> ????? ?????? IDE ( ?????? ???? ????? SATA ? PATA ). ???? ???? ???????, ??
> ????? ??????????? GENERIC . ?? ???????????? ????? ????????? ahci(4), ?
> ????????? ?????? ???????????? ?? memstick.
> ? ?????? ?????? ? ata(4) ? ???? ???????? ? SATA ? PATA ?????.

? ??? ??? ?????
? ?????? ???? BIOS ? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????
? ????? ?????? ?????, ???????? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????
??? ?????? ????????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ???? ??????? ?? ????????? ?????
? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????

>> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ?????
>> ????????????? ?? AHCI?
> 
> ?????? ??????????, ?????? ???????? ? Enhanced ?? IDE - ??????????.

???????!

From vvd at unislabs.com  Wed Dec 29 22:10:27 2021
From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:10:27 +0300
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29.12.2021 22:44, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 29 ??????? 2021 ?., 20:54, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:
>
>> ???-?? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ( ??????, ??????? ) ???????, ??????? ??
>> ?????? ????????? ? ahci(4), ?? ???????? ? ata(4). ? BIOS ????? Enhanced ???
>> ????? ?????? IDE ( ?????? ???? ????? SATA ? PATA ). ???? ???? ???????, ??
>> ????? ??????????? GENERIC . ?? ???????????? ????? ????????? ahci(4), ?
>> ????????? ?????? ???????????? ?? memstick.
>> ? ?????? ?????? ? ata(4) ? ???? ???????? ? SATA ? PATA ?????.
> ? ??? ??? ?????
> ? ?????? ???? BIOS ? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????
> ? ????? ?????? ?????, ???????? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????
> ??? ?????? ????????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ???? ??????? ?? ????????? ?????
> ? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????
>
>>> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ?????
>>> ????????????? ?? AHCI?
>> ?????? ??????????, ?????? ???????? ? Enhanced ?? IDE - ??????????.
> ???????!
????? ?????? ?? ?????, ? ???????????.

From oleg at theweb.org.ua  Wed Dec 29 22:30:31 2021
From: oleg at theweb.org.ua (Oleg V. Nauman)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:30:31 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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Message-ID: <2026916.x0N0T6uNKo@sigill.theweb.org.ua>

On 2021 M12 29, Wed 21:44:43 EET spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 29 ??????? 2021 ?., 20:54, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:
> > ???-?? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ( ??????, ??????? ) ???????, ???????
> > ??
> > ?????? ????????? ? ahci(4), ?? ???????? ? ata(4). ? BIOS ????? Enhanced
> > ???
> > ????? ?????? IDE ( ?????? ???? ????? SATA ? PATA ). ???? ???? ???????, ??
> > ????? ??????????? GENERIC . ?? ???????????? ????? ????????? ahci(4), ?
> > ????????? ?????? ???????????? ?? memstick.
> > ? ?????? ?????? ? ata(4) ? ???? ???????? ? SATA ? PATA ?????.
> 
> ? ??? ??? ?????

 ? ???? ?????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????? ? 

atapci0 at pci0:0:31:1:    class=0x01018a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 
device=0x27df subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
    vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
    device     = '82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller'
    class      = mass storage
    subclass   = ATA
atapci1 at pci0:0:31:2:    class=0x01018f rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 
device=0x27c0 subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
    vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
    device     = 'NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode]'
    class      = mass storage
    subclass   = ATA

? ???????? ???????????? ???????? ahci(4)

> ? ?????? ???? BIOS ? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????
> ? ????? ?????? ?????, ???????? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????

 ??? ??? ??????????. ????? ??? ada(4) ? da(4)

> ??? ?????? ????????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ???? ??????? ??
> ????????? ????? 

 ????????? ???????????????? ???????????, ????? ?????????, ????????? ??????? 
?????? ???????????? ?????????. 
 ?? ? ????????? ???????? ???????. 

> ? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????

 ? ??? sysctl ??????? ????????????? ?????????? ??????? ?????.

> 
> >> ???? ? ?????? ???????? ??????? ? ??????? IDE, ????? ?? ????? ?????
> >> ????????????? ?? AHCI?
> > 
> > ?????? ??????????, ?????? ???????? ? Enhanced ?? IDE - ??????????.
> 
> ???????!


From spell at itl.ua  Thu Dec 30 01:14:27 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:14:27 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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29 ??????? 2021 ?., 22:30, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:

> ? ???? ?????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????? ?
> 
> atapci0 at pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086
> device=0x27df subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
> vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
> device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller'
> class = mass storage
> subclass = ATA
> atapci1 at pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086
> device=0x27c0 subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
> vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
> device = 'NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode]'
> class = mass storage
> subclass = ATA
> 
> ? ???????? ???????????? ???????? ahci(4)

? ???? ??c???? ???????? ? ???????? ? ???, ???? ? ????? ????????? IDE.
??????? ? ?????????, ??? ??? ???? ?????????? GENERIC.

>> ? ?????? ???? BIOS ? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????
>> ? ????? ?????? ?????, ???????? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????
> 
> ??? ??? ??????????. ????? ??? ada(4) ? da(4)
> 
>> ??? ?????? ????????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ???? ??????? ??
>> ????????? ?????
> 
> ????????? ???????????????? ???????????, ????? ?????????, ????????? ???????
> ?????? ???????????? ?????????.
> ?? ? ????????? ???????? ???????.

?????? ??-???????: ? ??? ??????? ????????? ????? ? ?????? ????????? ?????? IDE ?? ? ?????? ????????? ?????? AHCI?

From oleg at theweb.org.ua  Thu Dec 30 06:55:17 2021
From: oleg at theweb.org.ua (Oleg V. Nauman)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 06:55:17 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <2026916.x0N0T6uNKo@sigill.theweb.org.ua>
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Message-ID: <2852508.slGk94SIus@sigill.theweb.org.ua>

On 2021 M12 30, Thu 01:14:27 EET spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 29 ??????? 2021 ?., 22:30, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:
> > ? ???? ?????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????? ?
> > 
> > atapci0 at pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086
> > device=0x27df subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
> > vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
> > device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller'
> > class = mass storage
> > subclass = ATA
> > atapci1 at pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086
> > device=0x27c0 subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
> > vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
> > device = 'NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode]'
> > class = mass storage
> > subclass = ATA
> > 
> > ? ???????? ???????????? ???????? ahci(4)
> 
> ? ???? ??c???? ???????? ? ???????? ? ???, ???? ? ????? ????????? IDE.
> ??????? ? ?????????, ??? ??? ???? ?????????? GENERIC.

 GENERIC ???????? ?????? ?? ??? ata(4) ? ahci(4), ?? ahci ????? ?????????.
? ???????? ????????? ahci(4).

> 
> >> ? ?????? ???? BIOS ? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????
> >> ? ????? ?????? ?????, ???????? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????
> > 
> > ??? ??? ??????????. ????? ??? ada(4) ? da(4)
> > 
> >> ??? ?????? ????????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ???? ??????? ??
> >> ????????? ?????
> > 
> > ????????? ???????????????? ???????????, ????? ?????????, ????????? ???????
> > ?????? ???????????? ?????????.
> > ?? ? ????????? ???????? ???????.
> 
> ?????? ??-???????: ? ??? ??????? ????????? ????? ? ?????? ????????? ??????
> IDE ?? ? ?????? ????????? ?????? AHCI?

 ? ?????? ??????? ??????????? ? ?????????? - ?????? ?????? ??????, 
????????????? DMA, ????????????? ???????? ?????? ? ??? ????? ? ??????????? ?? 
???????????? ??????????? ? ??????? ?????????? ? ?????????. 


From spell at itl.ua  Thu Dec 30 12:06:12 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 10:06:12 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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30 ??????? 2021 ?., 6:55, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:

> On 2021 M12 30, Thu 01:14:27 EET spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 
>> 29 ??????? 2021 ?., 22:30, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:
>> ? ???? ?????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????? ?
>> 
>> atapci0 at pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086
>> device=0x27df subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
>> device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller'
>> class = mass storage
>> subclass = ATA
>> atapci1 at pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086
>> device=0x27c0 subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8179
>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
>> device = 'NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode]'
>> class = mass storage
>> subclass = ATA
>> 
>> ? ???????? ???????????? ???????? ahci(4)
>> 
>> ? ???? ??c???? ???????? ? ???????? ? ???, ???? ? ????? ????????? IDE.
>> ??????? ? ?????????, ??? ??? ???? ?????????? GENERIC.
> 
> GENERIC ???????? ?????? ?? ??? ata(4) ? ahci(4), ?? ahci ????? ?????????.
> ? ???????? ????????? ahci(4).

???, ?????? ????.

>> ? ?????? ???? BIOS ? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????
>> ? ????? ?????? ?????, ???????? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????
>> 
>> ??? ??? ??????????. ????? ??? ada(4) ? da(4)
>> 
>> ??? ?????? ????????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ???? ??????? ??
>> ????????? ?????
>> 
>> ????????? ???????????????? ???????????, ????? ?????????, ????????? ???????
>> ?????? ???????????? ?????????.
>> ?? ? ????????? ???????? ???????.
>> 
>> ?????? ??-???????: ? ??? ??????? ????????? ????? ? ?????? ????????? ??????
>> IDE ?? ? ?????? ????????? ?????? AHCI?
> 
> ? ?????? ??????? ??????????? ? ?????????? - ?????? ?????? ??????,
> ????????????? DMA, ????????????? ???????? ?????? ? ??? ????? ? ??????????? ??
> ???????????? ??????????? ? ??????? ?????????? ? ?????????.

??? ??????? ahci ?? ide ???????.
? ???? ????? ??????? ??????...
??????? ?????????, ?????? ? ???? ?????????? ???? ??? ????????????? ? ????? AHCI.
?????? ??? ???: ??? ???? ??? ?????????? ? ?????? ???????? ?? ????????? IDE/AHCI
??? ???? ?.?. ? ???? ??? ????????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ?????
? ???: ??? ??????? ?????? ???????????? ??????????? ??????
????? ????????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? ???????????
????? ?? ??????? ???????????? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????? ?????, ???????? ?? ????????? ? ??????

? ??????, ???????, ???????? ?? ??????????? ????????, ??? ?????????? ? ??? ? ?????? ??????.
?????, ???? ???????????? ?? ??? ?????

From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Dec 30 12:48:06 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 17:48:06 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y8=?=
In-Reply-To: <d7d63545fb3fba473dc9c3d0322830a1@itl.ua>
References: <2852508.slGk94SIus@sigill.theweb.org.ua>
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Message-ID: <ea5e032a-34f1-57c0-ff1f-ffb3ef036c0c@grosbein.net>

30.12.2021 17:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:

> ??????? ?????????, ?????? ? ???? ?????????? ???? ??? ????????????? ? ????? AHCI.

??? ??? ?? ?????? ??????????.

> ?????? ??? ???: ??? ???? ??? ?????????? ? ?????? ???????? ?? ????????? IDE/AHCI
> ??? ???? ?.?. ? ???? ??? ????????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ?????

??? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ????????. ? ??????, ??????? ?? ?????.

> ? ???: ??? ??????? ?????? ???????????? ??????????? ??????
> ????? ????????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? ???????????

? ??????????? ???????? ACPI BIOS/UEFI - ???????? ????? ???????.
ACPI BIOS ???????? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????????????,
? ???????????? ??????? ????? ???????? ??? ? ACPI BIOS.

> ????? ?? ??????? ???????????? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????? ?????, ???????? ?? ????????? ? ??????

??? ??? ???? ? ??????. ???? ????? ???????, ?? ???.


From spell at itl.ua  Thu Dec 30 15:27:13 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 13:27:13 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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30 ??????? 2021 ?., 12:48, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 30.12.2021 17:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> ??????? ?????????, ?????? ? ???? ?????????? ???? ??? ????????????? ? ????? AHCI.
> 
> ??? ??? ?? ?????? ??????????.

??, ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???...
???????? ? ?????? ?????? ?????/??????????? ? ??????, ? ?????? (?????????????) ?????????
? ???????????, ??? ????? ????? ????????, ??? ??? ???-??..

>> ?????? ??? ???: ??? ???? ??? ?????????? ? ?????? ???????? ?? ????????? IDE/AHCI
>> ??? ???? ?.?. ? ???? ??? ????????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ?????
> 
> ??? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ????????. ? ??????, ??????? ?? ?????.
> 
>> ? ???: ??? ??????? ?????? ???????????? ??????????? ??????
>> ????? ????????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? ???????????
> 
> ? ??????????? ???????? ACPI BIOS/UEFI - ???????? ????? ???????.
> ACPI BIOS ???????? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????????????,
> ? ???????????? ??????? ????? ???????? ??? ? ACPI BIOS.
> 
>> ????? ?? ??????? ???????????? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????? ?????, ???????? ?? ????????? ? ??????
> 
> ??? ??? ???? ? ??????. ???? ????? ???????, ?? ???.

??????? ?? ??????.

From spell at itl.ua  Thu Dec 30 23:15:36 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 21:15:36 +0000
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
Message-ID: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>

??????????? ??????????.

??????????, ? ??? ????? ?? ???, ??? ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ???????

???? ???:

int64_t bv;
long cid;
bv = ( (int64_t) 1 << 33) + 3;
cid = 111;
printf("%ld %ldn", bv, cid);

clang ??????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????????? ???? ??????? ????????? (%ld ?????? ??????????? %lld).
? ??? ????? ???? ????????? ????? ???????:

3 2

?????? ????? ???????? - ??????? 4 ????? ?? bv.
? ??????, ?????? ???????? cid - ??????? 4 ????? ?? bv.

clang version 10.0.1.
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From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Thu Dec 30 23:39:04 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 23:39:04 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
References: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
Message-ID: <20211230213904.GA602@netch.kiev.ua>

hi,

 Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 21:15:36, spell wrote about "[freebsd] printf ? clang": 

> int64_t bv;
> long cid;
> bv = ( (int64_t) 1 << 33) + 3;
> cid = 111;
> printf("%ld %ldn", bv, cid);

??? ??????? ?????? ???? ???? \n ? ????? ????????? ??????.

> clang ??????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????????? ???? ??????? ????????? (%ld ?????? ??????????? %lld).

?????????? ? 32 ?????, ? ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? 64 ??????? ??
?????.

> ? ??? ????? ???? ????????? ????? ???????:
> 
> 3 2
> 
> ?????? ????? ???????? - ??????? 4 ????? ?? bv.
> ? ??????, ?????? ???????? cid - ??????? 4 ????? ?? bv.
> 
> clang version 10.0.1.

?????? ??? ???? ? 32 ?????, ?? ??? ???????, ?????? ???:
1. ??? ???????? ? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? (??? printf) ??????????
?????????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ??????? ???? int, ? int, ? ?????
??????? ?? ????????.
2. ?????????? ? ?????? ??????????????? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??
?????. ?????????????? ? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ??????????
????????????: 03 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 (bv) 6f 00 00 00 (cid).
3. printf ???????? ??????? %ld ????????? long, ??????? ? ???? ??????
32 ???? (????? int). ??????????? 03 00 00 00 (???????? 3).
?????? %ld ????????? 02 00 00 00 (???????? 2).

? 64 ????? ???????? ?? ?????, ?????? ???:

1. ?????? 6 ?????????? ?????????? ? ?????????, ??????? ??????????
????????? (! - ??-?? ????? va_arg c ????????? ??????? ???????????).
????????? ?????? ????? ? rdi, bv - ? rsi, cld - ? rdx.
2. long ? long long ????????? ????? 64 ???? ?????? ? ??????????
?????????????? ? ?????? ?????? ????????.

??????, ??? ??? ???????? ????? :))


-netch-

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 05:24:46 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 10:24:46 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?MTMuMCBtZW1zdGljayDQvdC1INCz0YDRg9C30LjRgtGB?=
 =?utf-8?b?0Y8=?=
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 <ce61bb106fc1ee9f12a4934a55be2d9d@itl.ua>
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30.12.2021 20:27, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 30 ??????? 2021 ?., 12:48, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
>> 30.12.2021 17:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>>
>>> ??????? ?????????, ?????? ? ???? ?????????? ???? ??? ????????????? ? ????? AHCI.
>>
>> ??? ??? ?? ?????? ??????????.
> 
> ??, ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???...
> ???????? ? ?????? ?????? ?????/??????????? ? ??????, ? ?????? (?????????????) ?????????
> ? ???????????, ??? ????? ????? ????????, ??? ??? ???-??..

? ?????????? ??? ??????? ?????????. ????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? BIOS ??? ????????? ? ??????.
????????? ????????? ? ???????? ???? ? ??? ? ??? ??? ???? ???????? ? ?????? ? ???????
?????????? ???? BIOS.

???????? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ? ???????, ?, ????????, ? ???????????? ??????? ? ???????,
?? ????????? ????????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??, ??? BIOS ??????????????? ???? ? ??????.

? ?? ?????????? ???????? ? /boot11/ ????????? ?? 11.2, ??? ??? ??? ????????
? ?????????? ????????? ???? ?? 13-? ?????? ?????? ???????????, ???????? ??? ?????? ?????????
?? boot2 (???? ???????????? MBR) ??????? ???????? ?????? "?????? ????" (/)
? ?????? ??????? ???? /boot11/loader, ??? ??? ??????????????? ? man boot,
???? ??? ??? ?? ???????:

     After the boot blocks have been loaded, you should see a prompt similar
     to the following:

     >> FreeBSD/x86 BOOT
     Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader
     boot:


From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 10:20:44 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 08:20:44 +0000
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <20211230213904.GA602@netch.kiev.ua>
References: <20211230213904.GA602@netch.kiev.ua>
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Message-ID: <da18f5938b72b472220c57eceee889fe@itl.ua>

30 ??????? 2021 ?., 23:39, "Valentin Nechayev" <netch at netch.kiev.ua> ???????:

> hi,
> 
> Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 21:15:36, spell wrote about "[freebsd] printf ? clang": 
> 
>> int64_t bv;
>> long cid;
>> bv = ( (int64_t) 1 << 33) + 3;
>> cid = 111;
>> printf("%ld %ldn", bv, cid);
> 
> ??? ??????? ?????? ???? ???? \n ? ????? ????????? ??????.

???????? :(

>> clang ??????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????????? ???? ??????? ????????? (%ld ?????? ??????????? %lld).
> 
> ?????????? ? 32 ?????, ? ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? 64 ??????? ??
> ?????.

??.

>> ? ??? ????? ???? ????????? ????? ???????:
>> 
>> 3 2
>> 
>> ?????? ????? ???????? - ??????? 4 ????? ?? bv.
>> ? ??????, ?????? ???????? cid - ??????? 4 ????? ?? bv.
>> 
>> clang version 10.0.1.
> 
> ?????? ??? ???? ? 32 ?????, ?? ??? ???????, ?????? ???:
> 1. ??? ???????? ? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? (??? printf) ??????????
> ?????????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ??????? ???? int, ? int, ? ?????
> ??????? ?? ????????.
> 2. ?????????? ? ?????? ??????????????? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??
> ?????. ?????????????? ? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ??????????
> ????????????: 03 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 (bv) 6f 00 00 00 (cid).
> 3. printf ???????? ??????? %ld ????????? long, ??????? ? ???? ??????
> 32 ???? (????? int). ??????????? 03 00 00 00 (???????? 3).
> ?????? %ld ????????? 02 00 00 00 (???????? 2).

??? ? ????????????.
??????????, ?????? - ??? ????????? ?? ???, ??? "??? ???????"?
???????, ???????, ??? ??????, ?? ? ????????? ???????? ???? ?????.
??? ???????? ????? ???:

printf("%ld %ld\n", bv, cid, cid);

?????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?????????, ?? ???????? cid ?? ???????,
???? ? ????? ?????????? ????? ??? ????? ??????? cid ????.

> ? 64 ????? ???????? ?? ?????, ?????? ???:
> 
> 1. ?????? 6 ?????????? ?????????? ? ?????????, ??????? ??????????
> ????????? (! - ??-?? ????? va_arg c ????????? ??????? ???????????).
> ????????? ?????? ????? ? rdi, bv - ? rsi, cld - ? rdx.
> 2. long ? long long ????????? ????? 64 ???? ?????? ? ??????????
> ?????????????? ? ?????? ?????? ????????.

???????, ????? ?????????, ???? ?????!

From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 10:32:20 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 08:32:20 +0000
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
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References: <da18f5938b72b472220c57eceee889fe@itl.ua>
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Message-ID: <ca75eeca4313024536c7ddef7cd71ea7@itl.ua>

31 ??????? 2021 ?., 10:20, spell at itl.ua ???????:

> ??? ???????? ????? ???:
> 
> printf("%ld %ld\n", bv, cid, cid);
> 
> ?????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?????????, ?? ???????? cid ?? ???????,
> ???? ? ????? ?????????? ????? ??? ????? ??????? cid ????.

??, "? ?????? ????? ??????????", ???? ???? ???:

printf("%ld %ld %ld\n", bv, cid);

? ??? ???????? cid ?????????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 10:51:50 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:51:50 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
References: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
Message-ID: <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>

31.12.2021 4:15, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
> 
> ??????????? ??????????.
> 
> ??????????, ? ??? ????? ?? ???, ??? ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ???????

????? ?? ??????. ???? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ? ? ????????? ??????, ????? ????? ?????? ???:

printf("%jd %ju\n", (intmax_t)longvalue, (intmax_t)unsignedlong);



From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 10:52:53 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:52:53 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>
References: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
 <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <dfa83518-19d5-f978-8c9c-f283d0d1ad77@grosbein.net>

31.12.2021 15:51, Eugene Grosbein ?????:
> 31.12.2021 4:15, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>>
>>
>> ??????????? ??????????.
>>
>> ??????????, ? ??? ????? ?? ???, ??? ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ???????
> 
> ????? ?? ??????. ???? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ? ? ????????? ??????, ????? ????? ?????? ???:
> 
> printf("%jd %ju\n", (intmax_t)longvalue, (intmax_t)unsignedlong);

??????, ????????, ???? ???:

printf("%jd %ju\n", (intmax_t)longvalue, (uintmax_t)unsignedlong);


From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 11:29:45 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 09:29:45 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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 <ce61bb106fc1ee9f12a4934a55be2d9d@itl.ua>
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Message-ID: <c7ad1808d5ca7e731d7278d1be30446e@itl.ua>

31 ??????? 2021 ?., 5:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 30.12.2021 20:27, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> 30 ??????? 2021 ?., 12:48, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>> 
>>> 30.12.2021 17:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>> 
>> ??????? ?????????, ?????? ? ???? ?????????? ???? ??? ????????????? ? ????? AHCI.
>>> ??? ??? ?? ?????? ??????????.
>> 
>> ??, ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???...
>> ???????? ? ?????? ?????? ?????/??????????? ? ??????, ? ?????? (?????????????) ?????????
>> ? ???????????, ??? ????? ????? ????????, ??? ??? ???-??..
> 
> ? ?????????? ??? ??????? ?????????. ????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? BIOS ??? ????????? ?
> ??????.
> ????????? ????????? ? ???????? ???? ? ??? ? ??? ??? ???? ???????? ? ?????? ? ???????
> ?????????? ???? BIOS.
> 
> ???????? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ? ???????, ?, ????????, ? ???????????? ??????? ? ???????,
> ?? ????????? ????????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??, ??? BIOS ??????????????? ???? ? ??????.

??????, ? ???? ?????-?? ???????? ????????? ? ??????:

BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory

????????-?? ???-??...
??? ???????? ??? ???????, 11.2 ? 12.3 (? ? ????? ????????? 12.3, ? ?? 13.0).
????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ????? 3G.

> ? ?? ?????????? ???????? ? /boot11/ ????????? ?? 11.2, ??? ??? ??? ????????
> ? ?????????? ????????? ???? ?? 13-? ?????? ?????? ???????????, ???????? ??? ?????? ?????????
> ?? boot2 (???? ???????????? MBR) ??????? ???????? ?????? "?????? ????" (/)
> ? ?????? ??????? ???? /boot11/loader, ??? ??? ??????????????? ? man boot,
> ???? ??? ??? ?? ???????:
> 
> After the boot blocks have been loaded, you should see a prompt similar
> to the following:
> 
>>> FreeBSD/x86 BOOT
> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader
> boot:

???, ??? ???????????.

From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 11:43:28 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 09:43:28 +0000
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <dfa83518-19d5-f978-8c9c-f283d0d1ad77@grosbein.net>
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 <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
 <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <1c8a21fe4cb081b2f4a9f47437eb6911@itl.ua>

31 ??????? 2021 ?., 10:52, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 31.12.2021 15:51, Eugene Grosbein ?????:
> 
>> 31.12.2021 4:15, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>>> ??????????? ??????????.
>>> 
>>> ??????????, ? ??? ????? ?? ???, ??? ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ???????
>> 
>> ????? ?? ??????. ???? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ? ? ????????? ??????, ????? ????? ?????? ???:
>> 
>> printf("%jd %ju\n", (intmax_t)longvalue, (intmax_t)unsignedlong);
> 
> ??????, ????????, ???? ???:
> 
> printf("%jd %ju\n", (intmax_t)longvalue, (uintmax_t)unsignedlong);

?? ??? ?????, ???????!

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 11:47:12 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 16:47:12 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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 =?utf-8?b?0Y8=?=
In-Reply-To: <c7ad1808d5ca7e731d7278d1be30446e@itl.ua>
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 <ea5e032a-34f1-57c0-ff1f-ffb3ef036c0c@grosbein.net>
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 <2026916.x0N0T6uNKo@sigill.theweb.org.ua>
 <ef319c91e97ebb55613827fe40398bde@itl.ua>
 <ce61bb106fc1ee9f12a4934a55be2d9d@itl.ua>
 <d7d63545fb3fba473dc9c3d0322830a1@itl.ua>
 <da83760584058c3183f0950ec2c7896f@itl.ua>
 <c7ad1808d5ca7e731d7278d1be30446e@itl.ua>
Message-ID: <2c4d212b-06aa-0505-b165-584c4483a152@grosbein.net>

31.12.2021 16:29, spell at itl.ua ?????:

>> ? ?? ?????????? ???????? ? /boot11/ ????????? ?? 11.2, ??? ??? ??? ????????
>> ? ?????????? ????????? ???? ?? 13-? ?????? ?????? ???????????, ???????? ??? ?????? ?????????
>> ?? boot2 (???? ???????????? MBR) ??????? ???????? ?????? "?????? ????" (/)
>> ? ?????? ??????? ???? /boot11/loader, ??? ??? ??????????????? ? man boot,
>> ???? ??? ??? ?? ???????:
>>
>> After the boot blocks have been loaded, you should see a prompt similar
>> to the following:
>>
>>>> FreeBSD/x86 BOOT
>> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader
>> boot:
> 
> ???, ??? ???????????.

????? ????? ??? ????????? ???? ???????????? ?????? ?????????:

cd /
mv boot boot.orig
mv boot11 boot
mv boot.orig/kernel* boot

> ??????, ? ???? ?????-?? ???????? ????????? ? ??????:
> 
> BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory
> 
> ????????-?? ???-??...
> ??? ???????? ??? ???????, 11.2 ? 12.3 (? ? ????? ????????? 12.3, ? ?? 13.0).
> ????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ????? 3G.

????? ???????? boot_verbose="YES" ? /boot/loader.conf ? ????? ?? ????? ????????
(? ? /var/run/dmesg.boot) ????? ????????? ? real memory ? avail memory
????? ?????????????? ??????????. ????????, ??? ??????? ? ????? ???????? 4GB+2GB ?
64-?????? ??????????? Intel Atom, ? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??????????? ??????
? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ????????? ? ???????? ? ????????? ? ????????????
?? 4GB ??????:

real memory  = 6442450944 (6144 MB)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x0000000000010000 - 0x000000000009dfff, 581632 bytes (142 pages)
0x0000000000103000 - 0x00000000001fffff, 1036288 bytes (253 pages)
0x0000000002b00000 - 0x00000000d8709fff, 3586170880 bytes (875530 pages)
avail memory = 3571384320 (3405 MB)

????? ?????????? ? ????? CPU ? ????????? ? ????? ?? ?????? ?? dmesg.boot.


From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Fri Dec 31 11:48:22 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:48:22 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>
References: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
 <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <20211231094822.GB602@netch.kiev.ua>

hi,

 Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 15:51:50, eugen wrote about "Re: [freebsd] printf ? clang": 

> > ??????????, ? ??? ????? ?? ???, ??? ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ???????
> 
> ????? ?? ??????. ???? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ? ? ????????? ??????, ????? ????? ?????? ???:
> 
> printf("%jd %ju\n", (intmax_t)longvalue, (intmax_t)unsignedlong);

? <inttypes.h> ???? ????? ???? PRId64.
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009696899/basedefs/inttypes.h.html
??? ????? ?????? ??????????? ????? ?? ????????????.
[u]intmax_t, ???????, ???? ?????????... ? ???????? printf ? ???
???????, ??? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ??? ????.


-netch-

From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Fri Dec 31 11:53:35 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:53:35 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <da18f5938b72b472220c57eceee889fe@itl.ua>
References: <20211230213904.GA602@netch.kiev.ua>
 <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
 <da18f5938b72b472220c57eceee889fe@itl.ua>
Message-ID: <20211231095335.GC602@netch.kiev.ua>

hi,

 Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 08:20:44, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] printf ? clang": 

> > ?????? ??? ???? ? 32 ?????, ?? ??? ???????, ?????? ???:
> > 1. ??? ???????? ? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? (??? printf) ??????????
> > ?????????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ??????? ???? int, ? int, ? ?????
> > ??????? ?? ????????.
> > 2. ?????????? ? ?????? ??????????????? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??
> > ?????. ?????????????? ? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ??????????
> > ????????????: 03 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 (bv) 6f 00 00 00 (cid).
> > 3. printf ???????? ??????? %ld ????????? long, ??????? ? ???? ??????
> > 32 ???? (????? int). ??????????? 03 00 00 00 (???????? 3).
> > ?????? %ld ????????? 02 00 00 00 (???????? 2).
> 
> ??? ? ????????????.
> ??????????, ?????? - ??? ????????? ?? ???, ??? "??? ???????"?

??? ???????. ? ????????? ??????? ????, ??? ? ???????? ? ??????????
?????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ???????????? ?????
?????????, ? ?????? ??????????????? ???????? ??????????.

> ???????, ???????, ??? ??????, ?? ? ????????? ???????? ???? ?????.
> ??? ???????? ????? ???:
> 
> printf("%ld %ld\n", bv, cid, cid);
> 
> ?????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?????????, ?? ???????? cid ?? ???????,
> ???? ? ????? ?????????? ????? ??? ????? ??????? cid ????.

??, ?????? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ????????. ? ???? ?????, ????????, ??????
%ld ??? ????????? - ????????? ???-?? ?? ????? (???????, ?????).

? C++ ??? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? (iostreams, boost::format...) -
??? ???? ???????? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?????? ??????????????? ??
????? ??????????. ? C ????? ???-?? ?? ???????.


-netch-

From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Fri Dec 31 12:09:56 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 12:09:56 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?MTMuMCBtZW1zdGljayDQvdC1INCz0YDRg9C30LjRgtGB?=
 =?utf-8?b?0Y8=?=
In-Reply-To: <c7ad1808d5ca7e731d7278d1be30446e@itl.ua>
References: <f0c941e9-0b28-5b8e-2b61-66b52fec22b3@grosbein.net>
 <ea5e032a-34f1-57c0-ff1f-ffb3ef036c0c@grosbein.net>
 <2852508.slGk94SIus@sigill.theweb.org.ua>
 <2026916.x0N0T6uNKo@sigill.theweb.org.ua>
 <ef319c91e97ebb55613827fe40398bde@itl.ua>
 <ce61bb106fc1ee9f12a4934a55be2d9d@itl.ua>
 <d7d63545fb3fba473dc9c3d0322830a1@itl.ua>
 <da83760584058c3183f0950ec2c7896f@itl.ua>
 <c7ad1808d5ca7e731d7278d1be30446e@itl.ua>
Message-ID: <20211231100956.GD602@netch.kiev.ua>

hi,

 Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 09:29:45, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 

> ??????, ? ???? ?????-?? ???????? ????????? ? ??????:
> 
> BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory
> 
> ????????-?? ???-??...

?????? ????? - ? ?????? ????????? ("conventional memory") -
??????????? 640kB ? ???????????, ??? ?????, 9kB ??? ?????? BIOS.
?????.
?????? - ?????? - 512MB ??? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? - ??? ??????? ?
??????

??? ??? ???????, ? verbose ????????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ???????
????? e820: ?? ?????? ???????? ????? ????? ? ?????-?? ???????????
?????? ? ?????. ???? ? ?? ??? ?????? ????? 512MB - ??????, ???????? ?
????????? ??? BIOS.

> ??? ???????? ??? ???????, 11.2 ? 12.3 (? ? ????? ????????? 12.3, ? ?? 13.0).
> ????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ????? 3G.

???????, ?????? ??????? ?????????.

?? ?? ?????? RAM ????? ???? ??????? ????? ??? ??????????? - ??????????
????? - ?????? ???????? BIOS, ??????? RAM ??? ????????? ????????????
????? ???? BIOS, ?????? ??????? ???????... ????? ?? ????? e820.


-netch-

From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 12:13:22 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 10:13:22 +0000
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <20211231094822.GB602@netch.kiev.ua>
References: <20211231094822.GB602@netch.kiev.ua>
 <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
 <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <c028fd1eb6df723582222fa0dbc8dc2a@itl.ua>

31 ??????? 2021 ?., 11:48, "Valentin Nechayev" <netch at netch.kiev.ua> ???????:

> ? <inttypes.h> ???? ????? ???? PRId64.
> https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009696899/basedefs/inttypes.h.html
> ??? ????? ?????? ??????????? ????? ?? ????????????.
> [u]intmax_t, ???????, ???? ?????????... ? ???????? printf ? ???
> ???????, ??? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ??? ????.

??????-?? ? ???? ?? ?????? ??, ???? ? ???? ?????? ??????????? ???? ????? ?????? ? C.
????????, ??? ??????????-?????????? ?? ?????, ????????????? ??? ???????,
???? ? ??? ????? ??????? 32 ?????, ?? ??????? ?? ????????????? ?? 64?????? ???????,
??? ??? ??????????, ???? ?? ??? long.
?? ?? ? ??????? ???????, ???? ?? ?????????????? ?????? ????????? ?????.

??????? ??????? ?? ????????? ????????? ????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 12:28:00 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:28:00 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?q?printf_=D0=B2_clang?=
In-Reply-To: <20211231094822.GB602@netch.kiev.ua>
References: <e0c2844569b36db3f92f9160c377ad68@itl.ua>
 <83ab629f-0f19-ae73-63ba-44e3f0144a78@grosbein.net>
 <20211231094822.GB602@netch.kiev.ua>
Message-ID: <66e88344-a0c2-04c9-fb79-d12a7580f24a@grosbein.net>

31.12.2021 16:48, Valentin Nechayev ?????:
> hi,
> 
>  Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 15:51:50, eugen wrote about "Re: [freebsd] printf ? clang": 
> 
>>> ??????????, ? ??? ????? ?? ???, ??? ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ???????
>>
>> ????? ?? ??????. ???? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ? ? ????????? ??????, ????? ????? ?????? ???:
>>
>> printf("%jd %ju\n", (intmax_t)longvalue, (intmax_t)unsignedlong);
> 
> ? <inttypes.h> ???? ????? ???? PRId64.
> https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009696899/basedefs/inttypes.h.html
> ??? ????? ?????? ??????????? ????? ?? ????????????.
> [u]intmax_t, ???????, ???? ?????????... ? ???????? printf ? ???
> ???????, ??? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ??? ????.

? ???????? ? ???, ? ???. ????? %jd ??????? ??????? ? ??? ???????, ????? ???? ?????? ???????.



From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 13:06:59 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:06:59 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <2c4d212b-06aa-0505-b165-584c4483a152@grosbein.net>
 <f0c941e9-0b28-5b8e-2b61-66b52fec22b3@grosbein.net>
 <ea5e032a-34f1-57c0-ff1f-ffb3ef036c0c@grosbein.net>
 <2852508.slGk94SIus@sigill.theweb.org.ua>
 <2026916.x0N0T6uNKo@sigill.theweb.org.ua>
 <ef319c91e97ebb55613827fe40398bde@itl.ua>
 <ce61bb106fc1ee9f12a4934a55be2d9d@itl.ua>
 <d7d63545fb3fba473dc9c3d0322830a1@itl.ua>
 <da83760584058c3183f0950ec2c7896f@itl.ua>
 <c7ad1808d5ca7e731d7278d1be30446e@itl.ua>
Message-ID: <577590cc1a7e1dc70752cb571df67ee2@itl.ua>

31 ??????? 2021 ?., 11:47, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> ????? ????? ??? ????????? ???? ???????????? ?????? ?????????:
> 
> cd /
> mv boot boot.orig
> mv boot11 boot
> mv boot.orig/kernel* boot

?? ??, ?????????, ??? ????????????? ??????? (12.3) ???????? ?? ????? ????????.
?? ???????? ?????? ?????? ? ????????????? (??????????? ? ??????? ?? 11.2).
(??? ??? AHCI, ? ? IDE ??? ?????? ????????).

>> ??????, ? ???? ?????-?? ???????? ????????? ? ??????:
>> 
>> BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory
>> 
>> ????????-?? ???-??...
>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????, 11.2 ? 12.3 (? ? ????? ????????? 12.3, ? ?? 13.0).
>> ????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ????? 3G.
> 
> ????? ???????? boot_verbose="YES" ? /boot/loader.conf ? ????? ?? ????? ????????
> (? ? /var/run/dmesg.boot) ????? ????????? ? real memory ? avail memory
> ????? ?????????????? ??????????. ????????, ??? ??????? ? ????? ???????? 4GB+2GB ?
> 64-?????? ??????????? Intel Atom, ? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??????????? ??????
> ? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ????????? ? ???????? ? ????????? ? ????????????
> ?? 4GB ??????:
> 
> real memory = 6442450944 (6144 MB)
> Physical memory chunk(s):
> 0x0000000000010000 - 0x000000000009dfff, 581632 bytes (142 pages)
> 0x0000000000103000 - 0x00000000001fffff, 1036288 bytes (253 pages)
> 0x0000000002b00000 - 0x00000000d8709fff, 3586170880 bytes (875530 pages)
> avail memory = 3571384320 (3405 MB)
> 
> ????? ?????????? ? ????? CPU ? ????????? ? ????? ?? ?????? ?? dmesg.boot.

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2594.16-MHz 686-class CPU)

real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009cfff, 638976 bytes (156 pages)
0x0000000000100000 - 0x00000000007fffff, 7340032 bytes (1792 pages)
0x000000000242a000 - 0x000000001fffffff, 498950144 bytes (121814 pages)
0x0000000020200000 - 0x0000000040003fff, 534790144 bytes (130564 pages)
0x0000000040005000 - 0x00000000b5754fff, 1970601984 bytes (481104 pages)
0x00000000b9c7f000 - 0x00000000b9f59fff, 2994176 bytes (731 pages)
avail memory = 3005071360 (2865 MB)

? dmesg.boot ????????? ? ?????? ????? ????, ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? loader
????? ????? ????????? ? ??????:

BIOS drive C: is disk0
BIOS drive D: is disk1
BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory

????? ???? ????? ? ??????????

From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 14:05:10 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 12:05:10 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?MTMuMCBtZW1zdGljayDQvdC1INCz0YDRg9C30LjRgtGB?=
 =?utf-8?b?0Y8=?=
In-Reply-To: <20211231100956.GD602@netch.kiev.ua>
References: <20211231100956.GD602@netch.kiev.ua>
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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 12:09, "Valentin Nechayev" <netch at netch.kiev.ua> ???????:

> hi,
> 
> Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 09:29:45, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 
> 
>> ??????, ? ???? ?????-?? ???????? ????????? ? ??????:
>> 
>> BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory
>> 
>> ????????-?? ???-??...
> 
> ?????? ????? - ? ?????? ????????? ("conventional memory") -
> ??????????? 640kB ? ???????????, ??? ?????, 9kB ??? ?????? BIOS.
> ?????.
> ?????? - ?????? - 512MB ??? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? - ??? ??????? ?
> ??????

????? 4Gb ????? ???????, ? ?????? ?? ???? ??????.
?????? ????? ??, ????. ?????? ?? ??????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 17:00:59 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:00:59 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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31.12.2021 18:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:

>> ????? ?????????? ? ????? CPU ? ????????? ? ????? ?? ?????? ?? dmesg.boot.
> 
> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2594.16-MHz 686-class CPU)
> 
> real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
> Physical memory chunk(s):
> 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009cfff, 638976 bytes (156 pages)
> 0x0000000000100000 - 0x00000000007fffff, 7340032 bytes (1792 pages)
> 0x000000000242a000 - 0x000000001fffffff, 498950144 bytes (121814 pages)
> 0x0000000020200000 - 0x0000000040003fff, 534790144 bytes (130564 pages)
> 0x0000000040005000 - 0x00000000b5754fff, 1970601984 bytes (481104 pages)
> 0x00000000b9c7f000 - 0x00000000b9f59fff, 2994176 bytes (731 pages)
> avail memory = 3005071360 (2865 MB)
> 
> ? dmesg.boot ????????? ? ?????? ????? ????, ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? loader
> ????? ????? ????????? ? ??????:
> 
> BIOS drive C: is disk0
> BIOS drive D: is disk1
> BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory
> 
> ????? ???? ????? ? ??????????

????????????? ? ??????. ??? ?? ???????? ?????? kenv | fgrep smbios.



From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 17:05:29 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:05:29 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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31.12.2021 18:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:

> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2594.16-MHz 686-class CPU)
> 
> real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
> Physical memory chunk(s):
> 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009cfff, 638976 bytes (156 pages)
> 0x0000000000100000 - 0x00000000007fffff, 7340032 bytes (1792 pages)
> 0x000000000242a000 - 0x000000001fffffff, 498950144 bytes (121814 pages)
> 0x0000000020200000 - 0x0000000040003fff, 534790144 bytes (130564 pages)
> 0x0000000040005000 - 0x00000000b5754fff, 1970601984 bytes (481104 pages)
> 0x00000000b9c7f000 - 0x00000000b9f59fff, 2994176 bytes (731 pages)
> avail memory = 3005071360 (2865 MB)

???-?? ????????? BIOS ??????? ?? ??????? ????????, ?????? ????.

??????????????? ?????? ???? ??, ?? ?????????? ????????? ?? ???????? ?????? ??? ???? ? BIOS SETUP
? ?????????????, ??????? ??? ???????????? ??? ??? ? ?????? AHCI.



From vvd at unislabs.com  Fri Dec 31 17:16:23 2021
From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 18:16:23 +0300
Subject: [freebsd]
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31.12.2021 14:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>
>>> ??????, ? ???? ?????-?? ???????? ????????? ? ??????:
>>>
>>> BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory
>>>
>>> ????????-?? ???-??...
>>> ??? ???????? ??? ???????, 11.2 ? 12.3 (? ? ????? ????????? 12.3, ? ?? 13.0).
>>> ????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ????? 3G.
>> ????? ???????? boot_verbose="YES" ? /boot/loader.conf ? ????? ?? ????? ????????
>> (? ? /var/run/dmesg.boot) ????? ????????? ? real memory ? avail memory
>> ????? ?????????????? ??????????. ????????, ??? ??????? ? ????? ???????? 4GB+2GB ?
>> 64-?????? ??????????? Intel Atom, ? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??????????? ??????
>> ? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ????????? ? ???????? ? ????????? ? ????????????
>> ?? 4GB ??????:
>>
>> real memory = 6442450944 (6144 MB)
>> Physical memory chunk(s):
>> 0x0000000000010000 - 0x000000000009dfff, 581632 bytes (142 pages)
>> 0x0000000000103000 - 0x00000000001fffff, 1036288 bytes (253 pages)
>> 0x0000000002b00000 - 0x00000000d8709fff, 3586170880 bytes (875530 pages)
>> avail memory = 3571384320 (3405 MB)
>>
>> ????? ?????????? ? ????? CPU ? ????????? ? ????? ?? ?????? ?? dmesg.boot.
> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2594.16-MHz 686-class CPU)
>
> real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
> Physical memory chunk(s):
> 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009cfff, 638976 bytes (156 pages)
> 0x0000000000100000 - 0x00000000007fffff, 7340032 bytes (1792 pages)
> 0x000000000242a000 - 0x000000001fffffff, 498950144 bytes (121814 pages)
> 0x0000000020200000 - 0x0000000040003fff, 534790144 bytes (130564 pages)
> 0x0000000040005000 - 0x00000000b5754fff, 1970601984 bytes (481104 pages)
> 0x00000000b9c7f000 - 0x00000000b9f59fff, 2994176 bytes (731 pages)
> avail memory = 3005071360 (2865 MB)
>
> ? dmesg.boot ????????? ? ?????? ????? ????, ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? loader
> ????? ????? ????????? ? ??????:
>
> BIOS drive C: is disk0
> BIOS drive D: is disk1
> BIOS 631kB/523264kB available memory
>
> ????? ???? ????? ? ??????????

??????? 32-??? ??????
?? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???????? - ?? ????????? ???? ????????? 
??????????? i386 ?? ??? ??????? ??????????, ???????? ??? ????????.


From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 17:38:56 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:38:56 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:00, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> ????????????? ? ??????. ??? ?? ???????? ?????? kenv | fgrep smbios.

smbios.system.family="103C_5336AN G=N L=BUS B=HP S=ELI"
smbios.system.maker="Hewlett-Packard"
msbios.system.product="HP EliteBook 2570p"

? ????????? ?????, ??? ? ????? ????? Mainboard 685404_001.
? ????? ?? ????? ??????, ??? ?????????? ?? ?????? ?????????.

From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 17:41:58 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:41:58 +0000
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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:05, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 31.12.2021 18:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2594.16-MHz 686-class CPU)
>> 
>> real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
>> Physical memory chunk(s):
>> 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009cfff, 638976 bytes (156 pages)
>> 0x0000000000100000 - 0x00000000007fffff, 7340032 bytes (1792 pages)
>> 0x000000000242a000 - 0x000000001fffffff, 498950144 bytes (121814 pages)
>> 0x0000000020200000 - 0x0000000040003fff, 534790144 bytes (130564 pages)
>> 0x0000000040005000 - 0x00000000b5754fff, 1970601984 bytes (481104 pages)
>> 0x00000000b9c7f000 - 0x00000000b9f59fff, 2994176 bytes (731 pages)
>> avail memory = 3005071360 (2865 MB)
> 
> ???-?? ????????? BIOS ??????? ?? ??????? ????????, ?????? ????.
> 
> ??????????????? ?????? ???? ??, ?? ?????????? ????????? ?? ???????? ?????? ??? ???? ? BIOS SETUP
> ? ?????????????, ??????? ??? ???????????? ??? ??? ? ?????? AHCI.

? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ?? ?????? ???????. ??, ??????????????? (???????).
??? ????? ????????, ?????? ??? ? ???????? ? ????????? 32-?????????, ? ??????? ????? ???????? 3.5G.
?? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?????????, ?????? ? ????? ?????? ????????? ????? ????????????...

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 17:48:13 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:48:13 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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29.12.2021 23:17, spell at itl.ua ?????:

>> ?????? ????? ??????? PR ? ???????? ? ???? ??? ??? ?????? (??? ??????? ? ??????? ???????????),
>> ??????? ???? ? ?????? 11.2
> 
> ??? ???????.
> 1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ? ?? ??????).

???? ??????????, ? ???????? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???. ????????? ????? ??????-??? ?? ????????? ??????????.



From vsasjason at gmail.com  Fri Dec 31 17:53:17 2021
From: vsasjason at gmail.com (Anton Saietskii)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:53:17 +0200
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 17:42 <spell at itl.ua> wrote:

> 31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:05, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>
> > 31.12.2021 18:06, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> >
> >> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2594.16-MHz 686-class
> CPU)
> >>
> >> real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
> >> Physical memory chunk(s):
> >> 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009cfff, 638976 bytes (156 pages)
> >> 0x0000000000100000 - 0x00000000007fffff, 7340032 bytes (1792 pages)
> >> 0x000000000242a000 - 0x000000001fffffff, 498950144 bytes (121814 pages)
> >> 0x0000000020200000 - 0x0000000040003fff, 534790144 bytes (130564 pages)
> >> 0x0000000040005000 - 0x00000000b5754fff, 1970601984 bytes (481104 pages)
> >> 0x00000000b9c7f000 - 0x00000000b9f59fff, 2994176 bytes (731 pages)
> >> avail memory = 3005071360 (2865 MB)
> >
> > ???-?? ????????? BIOS ??????? ?? ??????? ????????, ?????? ????.
> >
> > ??????????????? ?????? ???? ??, ?? ?????????? ????????? ?? ????????
> ?????? ??? ???? ? BIOS SETUP
> > ? ?????????????, ??????? ??? ???????????? ??? ??? ? ?????? AHCI.
>
> ? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ?? ?????? ???????. ??, ???????????????
> (???????).
> ??? ????? ????????, ?????? ??? ? ???????? ? ????????? 32-?????????, ?
> ??????? ????? ???????? 3.5G.
> ?? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?????????, ?????? ? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????
> ????????????...
>
*??? ????????* ? ??? ?? ????? -- ? ???-?? ??????, ??? ??? ????? ????? ???
???????

>
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From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 18:00:01 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 16:00:01 +0000
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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:53, "Anton Saietskii" <vsasjason at gmail.com (mailto:vsasjason at gmail.com?to=%22Anton%20Saietskii%22%20<vsasjason at gmail.com>)> ???????:

 *??? ????????* ? ??? ?? ????? -- ? ???-?? ??????, ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????  
??? - ??? :)
?? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ???? ????? ???????????? ????? 2G (??????? ? ????)

? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?????? (631kB/523264kB)
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From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 18:03:24 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 16:03:24 +0000
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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:48, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 29.12.2021 23:17, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>>> ?????? ????? ??????? PR ? ???????? ? ???? ??? ??? ?????? (??? ??????? ? ??????? ???????????),
>>> ??????? ???? ? ?????? 11.2
>> 
>> ??? ???????.
>> 1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ?
>> ?? ??????).
> 
> ???? ??????????, ? ???????? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???. ????????? ????? ??????-??? ?? ?????????
> ??????????.

?????, ?? ???????????, ??? ???????? ??? ??????????? ?? ???? ??? ? ?????????...
Anyway, ???????? ?????, ??????? ????????, ??? ????? ??? ??? ?????? IDE.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 18:20:37 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 23:20:37 +0700
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31.12.2021 23:03, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:48, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
>> 29.12.2021 23:17, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>>
>>>> ?????? ????? ??????? PR ? ???????? ? ???? ??? ??? ?????? (??? ??????? ? ??????? ???????????),
>>>> ??????? ???? ? ?????? 11.2
>>>
>>> ??? ???????.
>>> 1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ?
>>> ?? ??????).
>>
>> ???? ??????????, ? ???????? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???. ????????? ????? ??????-??? ?? ?????????
>> ??????????.
> 
> ?????, ?? ???????????, ??? ???????? ??? ??????????? ?? ???? ??? ? ?????????...
> Anyway, ???????? ?????, ??????? ????????, ??? ????? ??? ??? ?????? IDE.

???? ??? ????????, ??? ??? ???????? ? HDD ????? ??? ? ??? AHCI.



From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 18:49:20 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 23:49:20 +0700
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31.12.2021 23:00, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
> 
> 31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:53, "Anton Saietskii" <vsasjason at gmail.com <mailto:vsasjason at gmail.com?to=%22Anton%20Saietskii%22%20<vsasjason at gmail.com>>> ???????:
> 
>     *??? ????????* ? ??? ?? ????? -- ? ???-?? ??????, ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????
> 
> 
> ??? - ??? :)
> ?? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ???? ????? ???????????? ????? 2G (??????? ? ????)
> 
> ? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?????? (631kB/523264kB)

????? ????????? ??????????, ??????? ?????? ??? ????? ????????????
??? ???? ?????? (? ?????????, ??? malloc), ?? ?????????? ?????? BIOS ??? ?????:

https://wiki.osdev.org/Detecting_Memory_(x86)#Detecting_Upper_Memory

??? ??? BIOS ??????????? ????? ????????? ???????????? ??? ????????? ?????????,
?? ?????????? ????????? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ?? "????????" ??????? ???????.

??? ????????? ???? ????????? ???? ??????????? ??????? ??????????? ???????.
?????? ??? ???????, ??????? ?????????? ?? ??????? ?????????, ?? ???? ? ??????
Extended memory ? ???????? MS-DOS.

?????? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ????????, ? ??????? ????? ????????????,
? ?????????, "????" ?????????? (heap/malloc).



From spell at itl.ua  Fri Dec 31 19:28:29 2021
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 18:49, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 31.12.2021 23:00, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> 31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:53, "Anton Saietskii" <vsasjason at gmail.com
>> <vsasjason at gmail.com?to=%22Anton%20Saietskii%22%20<vsasjason at gmail.com>>> ???????:
>> 
>> *??? ????????* ? ??? ?? ????? -- ? ???-?? ??????, ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????
>> 
>> ??? - ??? :)
>> ?? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ???? ????? ???????????? ????? 2G (??????? ? ????)
>> 
>> ? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?????? (631kB/523264kB)
> 
> ????? ????????? ??????????, ??????? ?????? ??? ????? ????????????
> ??? ???? ?????? (? ?????????, ??? malloc), ?? ?????????? ?????? BIOS ??? ?????:
> 
> https://wiki.osdev.org/Detecting_Memory_(x86)#Detecting_Upper_Memory
> 
> ??? ??? BIOS ??????????? ????? ????????? ???????????? ??? ????????? ?????????,
> ?? ?????????? ????????? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ?? "????????" ??????? ???????.
> 
> ??? ????????? ???? ????????? ???? ??????????? ??????? ??????????? ???????.
> ?????? ??? ???????, ??????? ?????????? ?? ??????? ?????????, ?? ???? ? ??????
> Extended memory ? ???????? MS-DOS.
> 
> ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ????????, ? ??????? ????? ????????????,
> ? ?????????, "????" ?????????? (heap/malloc).

??????, ??? ??? ???.
? ? dmesg.boot ????????? ????? real memory ? available memory - ??? ???? ?? ??????
????????? ??????????
?????????, ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?? ?? 6 ?????? (? ????? ??????? ????? 3).
??????? ?? ??????!

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Dec 31 20:05:59 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 01:05:59 +0700
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01.01.2022 0:28, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 31 ??????? 2021 ?., 18:49, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
>> 31.12.2021 23:00, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>>
>>> 31 ??????? 2021 ?., 17:53, "Anton Saietskii" <vsasjason at gmail.com
>>> <vsasjason at gmail.com?to=%22Anton%20Saietskii%22%20<vsasjason at gmail.com>>> ???????:
>>>
>>> *??? ????????* ? ??? ?? ????? -- ? ???-?? ??????, ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????
>>>
>>> ??? - ??? :)
>>> ?? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ???? ????? ???????????? ????? 2G (??????? ? ????)
>>>
>>> ? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?????? (631kB/523264kB)
>>
>> ????? ????????? ??????????, ??????? ?????? ??? ????? ????????????
>> ??? ???? ?????? (? ?????????, ??? malloc), ?? ?????????? ?????? BIOS ??? ?????:
>>
>> https://wiki.osdev.org/Detecting_Memory_(x86)#Detecting_Upper_Memory
>>
>> ??? ??? BIOS ??????????? ????? ????????? ???????????? ??? ????????? ?????????,
>> ?? ?????????? ????????? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ?? "????????" ??????? ???????.
>>
>> ??? ????????? ???? ????????? ???? ??????????? ??????? ??????????? ???????.
>> ?????? ??? ???????, ??????? ?????????? ?? ??????? ?????????, ?? ???? ? ??????
>> Extended memory ? ???????? MS-DOS.
>>
>> ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ????????, ? ??????? ????? ????????????,
>> ? ?????????, "????" ?????????? (heap/malloc).
> 
> ??????, ??? ??? ???.
> ? ? dmesg.boot ????????? ????? real memory ? available memory - ??? ???? ?? ??????
> ????????? ??????????

? ?????? ????????? ??, ?? ? dmesg.boot ???? ????????? ?? ????, ? ?? ??????????
? ???????????? ???????? ????????? ???????????, ?????? ??? BIOS ????? ??????????
???????? ?????? ?????, ?? ?????? ????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????????,
??? ??? ?????????/???? ????? ?? ????????? ? ??? ??????????.

> ?????????, ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?? ?? 6 ?????? (? ????? ??????? ????? 3).

?????? ??? ?????? ??????.


From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Fri Dec 31 21:58:54 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:58:54 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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hi,

 Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 11:06:59, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 

> > ?? 4GB ??????:
> > 
> > real memory = 6442450944 (6144 MB)

?? ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? 4GB :)

> real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
> Physical memory chunk(s):
> 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009cfff, 638976 bytes (156 pages)
> 0x0000000000100000 - 0x00000000007fffff, 7340032 bytes (1792 pages)
> 0x000000000242a000 - 0x000000001fffffff, 498950144 bytes (121814 pages)
> 0x0000000020200000 - 0x0000000040003fff, 534790144 bytes (130564 pages)
> 0x0000000040005000 - 0x00000000b5754fff, 1970601984 bytes (481104 pages)
> 0x00000000b9c7f000 - 0x00000000b9f59fff, 2994176 bytes (731 pages)
> avail memory = 3005071360 (2865 MB)

?? ????? ??????????, ??? ??? ?????? ?????-?? ???? ?? ???????????
??????. ????? ? ???? ????? ?? ???? ???????? ???...


-netch-

From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Fri Dec 31 22:20:39 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:20:39 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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hi,

 Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 15:41:58, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 

> ? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ?? ?????? ???????. ??, ??????????????? (???????).
> ??? ????? ????????, ?????? ??? ? ???????? ? ????????? 32-?????????, ? ??????? ????? ???????? 3.5G.

?????? ?????????, ??? 64-?????? ?? ?????????? ?????????? ??? ??????
???-?? ?? 1.5GB.
???????????: ???? ???? ????? ?????? ???????? ??? ??????????? ?????? ??
??????????? ???????? ???????????? (?????? ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?
?????? - ??? ???????????? ????????) ? ??? ? ????????? ????????????
????????? ?????-??????, ?? ?? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ???????
?? ?????? ???????????; ? ??? ??????????? ???? ?????? - ??????????
????? ????? ????? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????????????? ???????????
????? ???.

> ?? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?????????, ?????? ? ????? ?????? ????????? ????? ????????????...

???? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? ????? ????????????.
??? ????????????? - ??. $src/stand/i386/libi386/biosmem.c, ??????????
bios_extmem, ? ??????????? /* look for the first segment in 'extended'
memory */. Extended memory ???????????? ?? ?????? e820, ???? ????????.
??, ??? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? - ??? ??? ??????????? ????????
?????????? ? x86.


-netch-

From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Fri Dec 31 22:52:51 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 22:52:51 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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hi,

 Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 17:28:29, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 

> ??????, ??? ??? ???.
> ? ? dmesg.boot ????????? ????? real memory ? available memory - ??? ???? ?? ??????
> ????????? ??????????

??.

> ?????????, ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?? ?? 6 ?????? (? ????? ??????? ????? 3).

?????? ??????. ????? ?????? ??????. ?????? ?????? ??????? ???????...

???? ????????, ?? ??????? ???????? ???. ? x86 ???????????
????????????? ?
1) 16-?????? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 1MB;
2) 32-?????? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 4GB.

?????? ???????? ? ????, ??? ?????? 0xA0000-0xFFFFF (????? ?????
??????? 640kB ? ???????? 1MB) ??????? ???????????, ??? ?? ?????? IBM
PC, ??? ??????????? ?????? ??????? ? ??? BIOS (??????? ??? RAM, ?
??????? ??????????? ????? BIOS). ????? ????, ????????? ?????? ?
????????? ???????? ?????? ??? ?????? BIOS (??????? ACPI).

?????? ?????????? ???????? ???, ??? ????? ??????? ???? ??????? 4GB
?????? ??? ????. ????: ????????, local APIC ???? ?????????? - ??
0xFEE0_0000 ?? 0xFEE0_0FFF. ?????? ??? ???? ?? ?????.
????????? ?????????? ????? ??? ?? ????????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?
32-?????? ????????? (???? 4GB), ??? ????? ?????????? ???????? ?? PCI
????????????.

??????... ?????????? ???? 8GB RAM ????? ???????. ???? ?? ????? ????
?????????? ??? ??????? ??????, ?? ??? ?? ?? 0 ?? 0x1_FFFF_FFFF. ??
????????? ?????????? ???????? ? ????, ???
1) ?????? ???? ???????? ? ????????? ?? 0 ?? 0x9FFFF (?? ????? 640kB),
? ??????? ?? ?????? BIOS, ??????? ?????? ???? ???????? ? ? ????????
??????;
2) ?????? ???? ???????? ????? (? ??? 32-?????? ?????? - ????????) ??
0x10_0000 ??, ????????, 0xDFFF_FFFF (???????? - ????? ???? ?????? ???
??????);
3) ??? ????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ???? ??????? 4GB ? ????????
?? ????, ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ???????????, shadow BIOS ? ???
????? (?????? ?????? ??????? 1MB ??? ????????????, ????????).
4) ?????????? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????????
?????? (??????? ????????-????????? ???????, ?????? ????????? ?????????
?????).

? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ???????????? 512MB ???? 4GB ???? ???-????
???????? ????. ???? ?? ?????????: ??????? ????? ??????? 8GB-16GB
???????????? ?????? ??????? ? ??? ?? ??????, ? ????? ????? ?????? BIOS
????????? ????? ?????? ? ????. ????? ????????? ????? ????:
1) 0x1000-0x9EFFF (4kB ? ?????? ? ? ????? BIOS ??????? ??? ??????);
2) 0x10_0000-0xDFFF_FFFF (?????????? ??????, ???????? 512MB ?? ??????
?????????);
3) 0x1_0000_0000-0x1_FFFF_FFFF (?????????? ?????? ? ??????? ??????);
4) 0x2_E000_0000-0x2_FFFF_FFFF (512MB ??????? ?? ???????? ? ??????
4GB, ???????? ?????).
??? ???? ? ??????????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ????: ???????
0-0x1_FFFF_FFFF ? 0x2_0000_0000-0x3_FFFF_FFFF ????????? ?????????? ??
???? ? ??? ?? ?????? (?? ? ??????? ???????? ??????????? 2 ?????????
??? I/O), ? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? - ????????? ????? ?? 16GB, ??
BIOS ?????, ??? ??????? ?????? ????????? ???????, ? ????????? ?? ????
?????? ??? ????? ? 512MB, ??????? "??????" ? ?????? 8GB.

? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ????????, ???, ????????, ??????????? ??????
?? 8GB ? ?????? ?? 16GB, ?????? BIOS ????? ???????? ? ???? ???, ???
16GB. ????? ?? ??????? ???? 16GB ??????, ?? ??????? ???????????
???????? ?? ?? 512MB, ? 8GB ?????? ??????? ? ?????? 0x8_0000_0000
(32GB) ? ??? ?????? ???? ???.

? ? ?????? ????? ??????? ????????? ????? (????????? 10-12 ???
???????????? ? ?????????) ??? ?????? ????? ???? ????????. ?? ? ???????
BIOS ????? ?? ??????.

??????? ????? ?? ????????????? ???? TOLUD, TOUUD, ?????????? ???? "10th
Generation Intel Core Processor Families datasheet" ? ?.?. - ??? ???
??? ????????? ?????????.

? ???? ? ????? ????? ???? :))


-netch-

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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 22:20, "Valentin Nechayev" <netch at netch.kiev.ua> ???????:

> ?????? ?????????, ??? 64-?????? ?? ?????????? ?????????? ??? ??????
> ???-?? ?? 1.5GB.
> ???????????: ???? ???? ????? ?????? ???????? ??? ??????????? ?????? ??
> ??????????? ???????? ???????????? (?????? ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?
> ?????? - ??? ???????????? ????????) ? ??? ? ????????? ????????????
> ????????? ?????-??????, ?? ?? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ???????
> ?? ?????? ???????????; ? ??? ??????????? ???? ?????? - ??????????
> ????? ????? ????? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????????????? ???????????
> ????? ???.

????????, ?????? 64-?????????...

> ???? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? ????? ????????????.
> ??? ????????????? - ??. $src/stand/i386/libi386/biosmem.c, ??????????
> bios_extmem, ? ??????????? /* look for the first segment in 'extended'
> memory */. Extended memory ???????????? ?? ?????? e820, ???? ????????.
> ??, ??? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? - ??? ??? ??????????? ????????
> ?????????? ? x86.

?? ???, ??? ???? ???????? ???? biosmem.c...

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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 22:52, "Valentin Nechayev" <netch at netch.kiev.ua> ???????:

> hi,
> 
> Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 17:28:29, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 
> 
>> ??????, ??? ??? ???.
>> ? ? dmesg.boot ????????? ????? real memory ? available memory - ??? ???? ?? ??????
>> ????????? ??????????
> 
> ??.
> 
>> ?????????, ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?? ?? 6 ?????? (? ????? ??????? ????? 3).
> 
> ?????? ??????. ????? ?????? ??????. ?????? ?????? ??????? ???????...
> 
> ???? ????????, ?? ??????? ???????? ???. ? x86 ???????????
> ????????????? ?
> 1) 16-?????? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 1MB;
> 2) 32-?????? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 4GB.
> 
> ?????? ???????? ? ????, ??? ?????? 0xA0000-0xFFFFF (????? ?????
> ??????? 640kB ? ???????? 1MB) ??????? ???????????, ??? ?? ?????? IBM
> PC, ??? ??????????? ?????? ??????? ? ??? BIOS (??????? ??? RAM, ?
> ??????? ??????????? ????? BIOS). ????? ????, ????????? ?????? ?
> ????????? ???????? ?????? ??? ?????? BIOS (??????? ACPI).
> 
> ?????? ?????????? ???????? ???, ??? ????? ??????? ???? ??????? 4GB
> ?????? ??? ????. ????: ????????, local APIC ???? ?????????? - ??
> 0xFEE0_0000 ?? 0xFEE0_0FFF. ?????? ??? ???? ?? ?????.
> ????????? ?????????? ????? ??? ?? ????????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?
> 32-?????? ????????? (???? 4GB), ??? ????? ?????????? ???????? ?? PCI
> ????????????.
> 
> ??????... ?????????? ???? 8GB RAM ????? ???????. ???? ?? ????? ????
> ?????????? ??? ??????? ??????, ?? ??? ?? ?? 0 ?? 0x1_FFFF_FFFF. ??
> ????????? ?????????? ???????? ? ????, ???
> 1) ?????? ???? ???????? ? ????????? ?? 0 ?? 0x9FFFF (?? ????? 640kB),
> ? ??????? ?? ?????? BIOS, ??????? ?????? ???? ???????? ? ? ????????
> ??????;
> 2) ?????? ???? ???????? ????? (? ??? 32-?????? ?????? - ????????) ??
> 0x10_0000 ??, ????????, 0xDFFF_FFFF (???????? - ????? ???? ?????? ???
> ??????);
> 3) ??? ????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ???? ??????? 4GB ? ????????
> ?? ????, ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ???????????, shadow BIOS ? ???
> ????? (?????? ?????? ??????? 1MB ??? ????????????, ????????).
> 4) ?????????? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????????
> ?????? (??????? ????????-????????? ???????, ?????? ????????? ?????????
> ?????).
> 
> ? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ???????????? 512MB ???? 4GB ???? ???-????
> ???????? ????. ???? ?? ?????????: ??????? ????? ??????? 8GB-16GB
> ???????????? ?????? ??????? ? ??? ?? ??????, ? ????? ????? ?????? BIOS
> ????????? ????? ?????? ? ????. ????? ????????? ????? ????:
> 1) 0x1000-0x9EFFF (4kB ? ?????? ? ? ????? BIOS ??????? ??? ??????);
> 2) 0x10_0000-0xDFFF_FFFF (?????????? ??????, ???????? 512MB ?? ??????
> ?????????);
> 3) 0x1_0000_0000-0x1_FFFF_FFFF (?????????? ?????? ? ??????? ??????);
> 4) 0x2_E000_0000-0x2_FFFF_FFFF (512MB ??????? ?? ???????? ? ??????
> 4GB, ???????? ?????).
> ??? ???? ? ??????????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ????: ???????
> 0-0x1_FFFF_FFFF ? 0x2_0000_0000-0x3_FFFF_FFFF ????????? ?????????? ??
> ???? ? ??? ?? ?????? (?? ? ??????? ???????? ??????????? 2 ?????????
> ??? I/O), ? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? - ????????? ????? ?? 16GB, ??
> BIOS ?????, ??? ??????? ?????? ????????? ???????, ? ????????? ?? ????
> ?????? ??? ????? ? 512MB, ??????? "??????" ? ?????? 8GB.
> 
> ? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ????????, ???, ????????, ??????????? ??????
> ?? 8GB ? ?????? ?? 16GB, ?????? BIOS ????? ???????? ? ???? ???, ???
> 16GB. ????? ?? ??????? ???? 16GB ??????, ?? ??????? ???????????
> ???????? ?? ?? 512MB, ? 8GB ?????? ??????? ? ?????? 0x8_0000_0000
> (32GB) ? ??? ?????? ???? ???.
> 
> ? ? ?????? ????? ??????? ????????? ????? (????????? 10-12 ???
> ???????????? ? ?????????) ??? ?????? ????? ???? ????????. ?? ? ???????
> BIOS ????? ?? ??????.

? ??? ?????? ? ????????? :D

> ? ???? ? ????? ????? ???? :))

?? :)