From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Jan  1 07:48:43 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:48:43 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0KPQtNCw0LvQtdC90L3Ri9C1INC/0L7RgNGC0Ys=?=
In-Reply-To: <20201230173737.5753136c@i11.co>
References: <20201230074044.16e3fac2@i11.co>
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30.12.2020 22:37, Nick Kostirya ?????:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:00:28 +0700
> Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> ???? ????????? ????????? ? ???????? ?????????, ????????, ? ???? ???????? ? ????.
>> ? ????? ?????? ???? ?????
> 
> 
> 
> GNU2 Suguru Yamaguchi
> https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/xbattbar
> http://mirror.its.dal.ca/freebsd/distfiles/xbattbar_1.4.2.tar.gz
> 
> GNU2
> https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/wmcube/
> http://mirror.its.dal.ca/freebsd/distfiles/wmcube-0.98.tar.gz
> 
> https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/wmbsdbatt/
> http://mirror.its.dal.ca/freebsd/distfiles/wmbsdbatt-0.1.tar.gz
> 
> ??? ??? ??? GNUv2. ????????? GNUv2 ???????? ??????? ????

???????? ?????????? GPLv2 (GNU Public License version 2) ? ??? ????????? ??????????????? ?????.
??? ???? ???????? ????????? ??????? ???????? ????????????? ?????????.

? ??? FreeBSD ?? ???? ???????, ???? ???????? ???????? ???????? ? ?? ?? ???????? ?????? ???????.
???????? ?????????????? ?????? ????????.

? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????.


From nikolay.kostirya at i11.co  Fri Jan  1 10:43:10 2021
From: nikolay.kostirya at i11.co (Nick Kostirya)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:43:10 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0KPQtNCw0LvQtdC90L3Ri9C1INC/0L7RgNGC0Ys=?=
In-Reply-To: <97d9dd87-2efe-4590-7d15-4cb88194139f@grosbein.net>
References: <20201230074044.16e3fac2@i11.co>
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 <97d9dd87-2efe-4590-7d15-4cb88194139f@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <20210101104310.3901fd65@i11.co>

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:48:43 +0700
Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:


> 
> ? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????.

???????? ???????!

? ??? ???? ??? ????????? ???? ??-??: Uses obsolete glib12

https://www.freshports.org/x11/xdialog

??? ?????????? ???????? 

USE_GNOME= gtk12

??

USE_GNOME= gtk20

? ????????

CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-gtk2

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Jan  1 16:43:34 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 21:43:34 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0KPQtNCw0LvQtdC90L3Ri9C1INC/0L7RgNGC0Ys=?=
In-Reply-To: <20210101104310.3901fd65@i11.co>
References: <20201230074044.16e3fac2@i11.co>
 <6dbc1778-0e45-f57a-814b-117cd7d1c24a@grosbein.net>
 <20201230173737.5753136c@i11.co>
 <97d9dd87-2efe-4590-7d15-4cb88194139f@grosbein.net>
 <20210101104310.3901fd65@i11.co>
Message-ID: <5c984fa3-34cb-77fa-4918-ef686f98b2a8@grosbein.net>

01.01.2021 15:43, Nick Kostirya ?????:
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:48:43 +0700
> Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> ? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????.
> 
> ???????? ???????!
> 
> ? ??? ???? ??? ????????? ???? ??-??: Uses obsolete glib12
> 
> https://www.freshports.org/x11/xdialog
> 
> ??? ?????????? ???????? 
> 
> USE_GNOME= gtk12
> 
> ??
> 
> USE_GNOME= gtk20
> 
> ? ????????
> 
> CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-gtk2

??????.



From nikolay.kostirya at i11.co  Sat Jan  2 07:14:43 2021
From: nikolay.kostirya at i11.co (Nick Kostirya)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:14:43 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0KPQtNCw0LvQtdC90L3Ri9C1INC/0L7RgNGC0Ys=?=
In-Reply-To: <5c984fa3-34cb-77fa-4918-ef686f98b2a8@grosbein.net>
References: <20201230074044.16e3fac2@i11.co>
 <6dbc1778-0e45-f57a-814b-117cd7d1c24a@grosbein.net>
 <20201230173737.5753136c@i11.co>
 <97d9dd87-2efe-4590-7d15-4cb88194139f@grosbein.net>
 <20210101104310.3901fd65@i11.co>
 <5c984fa3-34cb-77fa-4918-ef686f98b2a8@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <20210102071443.7be72d43@i11.co>

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 21:43:34 +0700
Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:

> 01.01.2021 15:43, Nick Kostirya ?????:
> > On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:48:43 +0700
> > Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:
> > 
> >   
> >>
> >> ? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????.  
> > 
> > ???????? ???????!
> > 
> > ? ??? ???? ??? ????????? ???? ??-??: Uses obsolete glib12
> > 
> > https://www.freshports.org/x11/xdialog
> > 
> > ??? ?????????? ???????? 
> > 
> > USE_GNOME= gtk12
> > 
> > ??
> > 
> > USE_GNOME= gtk20
> > 
> > ? ????????
> > 
> > CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-gtk2  
> 
> ??????.

???????!

From nikolay.kostirya at i11.co  Sat Jan  2 07:23:52 2021
From: nikolay.kostirya at i11.co (Nick Kostirya)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:23:52 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] boot
In-Reply-To: <707f60ec-65b8-97bd-f756-b37456dde69e@unislabs.com>
References: <20201229052837.34abf35a@i11.co>
 <20201229072856.GM663@netch.kiev.ua>
 <707f60ec-65b8-97bd-f756-b37456dde69e@unislabs.com>
Message-ID: <20210102072352.2c074a39@i11.co>

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:41:57 +0300
???????? ???????? <vvd at unislabs.com> wrote:

> ??????? ????????? ZFS, ?? ????????????? ?? ?bare-metal? ????????.
> ??? ???????????? ??????????? ?? ????????????? ?????? ZFS ?????? 
> ????????, ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ?????????.
> ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????? ???????????, ? ??? ?? ???????? 
> ????????????? (VirtualBox) ??????, ?? ??? 12.x ??? ?? ??? ????? - ??? 
> ????????? ?????? ARC ??? ?????????????, ? ?? ??? ??????.
> ?????????? ? /boot/loader.conf ???-?? ????:
> vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable="1"
> vfs.zfs.arc_min="67108864"
> vfs.zfs.arc_max="536870912"
> 
> ?????? ? 12.2 ????????? ? Wired: 
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252227
> ???????? ??? ????????????? ??????? vm.max_wired.
> 
> ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ????: soft raid, ?????? lz4, ????????? ? 
> ????????? ?????? ??????????, ?????????? ? NFS ????????.
> 
> ?? ?????????? ? ?? ??????? ???????? ?? ????????? ZFS.
> ?? ??????? ??????? ????? ??? ? 16GB ?????? ?? ???? ?? ????????????. ? 
> ??????? ?????? ? 8GB. ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ??? ???? 
> ??????? ???????.

??????? ?? ??????????.

? ?????? ?? ??????????? VirtualBox, ? ?? bhyve? ? ????? ???????? ? VirtualBox ???????????? ? ??????

????????? ????? ? ??? ??????????? ?????????? ZFS ? NFS.

From vvd at unislabs.com  Sat Jan  2 08:51:09 2021
From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:51:09 +0300
Subject: [freebsd] boot
In-Reply-To: <20210102072352.2c074a39@i11.co>
References: <20201229052837.34abf35a@i11.co>
 <20201229072856.GM663@netch.kiev.ua>
 <707f60ec-65b8-97bd-f756-b37456dde69e@unislabs.com>
 <20210102072352.2c074a39@i11.co>
Message-ID: <4c5d4aaa-fc9c-17cd-d4fd-6e60d1eaa9d9@unislabs.com>

02.01.2021 08:23, Nick Kostirya ?????:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:41:57 +0300
> ???????? ???????? <vvd at unislabs.com> wrote:
>
>> ??????? ????????? ZFS, ?? ????????????? ?? ?bare-metal? ????????.
>> ??? ???????????? ??????????? ?? ????????????? ?????? ZFS ??????
>> ????????, ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ?????????.
>> ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????? ???????????, ? ??? ?? ????????
>> ????????????? (VirtualBox) ??????, ?? ??? 12.x ??? ?? ??? ????? - ???
>> ????????? ?????? ARC ??? ?????????????, ? ?? ??? ??????.
>> ?????????? ? /boot/loader.conf ???-?? ????:
>> vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable="1"
>> vfs.zfs.arc_min="67108864"
>> vfs.zfs.arc_max="536870912"
>>
>> ?????? ? 12.2 ????????? ? Wired:
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252227
>> ???????? ??? ????????????? ??????? vm.max_wired.
>>
>> ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ????: soft raid, ?????? lz4, ????????? ?
>> ????????? ?????? ??????????, ?????????? ? NFS ????????.
>>
>> ?? ?????????? ? ?? ??????? ???????? ?? ????????? ZFS.
>> ?? ??????? ??????? ????? ??? ? 16GB ?????? ?? ???? ?? ????????????. ?
>> ??????? ?????? ? 8GB. ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ??? ????
>> ??????? ???????.
> ??????? ?? ??????????.
>
> ? ?????? ?? ??????????? VirtualBox, ? ?? bhyve? ? ????? ???????? ? VirtualBox ???????????? ? ??????

1 ???? ? Q6600 ? 3 ????? ? i7 920: 
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-virtualization/2014-March/002429.html

???????? ???? ?? ????? ?????????.

> ????????? ????? ? ??? ??????????? ?????????? ZFS ? NFS.
zfs set sharenfs="?" zpool/fs

From admin at support.od.ua  Sat Jan  9 05:56:14 2021
From: admin at support.od.ua (Vladislav V. Prodan)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 05:56:14 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0KPQtNCw0LvQtdC90L3Ri9C1INC/0L7RgNGC0Ys=?=
In-Reply-To: <5c984fa3-34cb-77fa-4918-ef686f98b2a8@grosbein.net>
References: <20201230074044.16e3fac2@i11.co>
 <6dbc1778-0e45-f57a-814b-117cd7d1c24a@grosbein.net>
 <20201230173737.5753136c@i11.co>
 <97d9dd87-2efe-4590-7d15-4cb88194139f@grosbein.net>
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Message-ID: <CAH4R=3mM=z+eNvt2i3JULN6rePFz9SWuNXZWF8uxe3ko7pH4wg@mail.gmail.com>

? ????? ???-?? ???????????????? ????????? ????? emulators/qemu-guest-agent ?

?????, ????? ??????? ???? - https://github.com/aborche/qemu-guest-agent

??, 1 ???. 2021 ?. ? 16:44, Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net>:

> 01.01.2021 15:43, Nick Kostirya ?????:
> > On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:48:43 +0700
> > Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> ? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????.
> >
> > ???????? ???????!
> >
> > ? ??? ???? ??? ????????? ???? ??-??: Uses obsolete glib12
> >
> > https://www.freshports.org/x11/xdialog
> >
> > ??? ?????????? ????????
> >
> > USE_GNOME= gtk12
> >
> > ??
> >
> > USE_GNOME= gtk20
> >
> > ? ????????
> >
> > CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-gtk2
>
> ??????.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> freebsd at uafug.org.ua
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>


-- 
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From eugen at grosbein.net  Sat Jan  9 09:29:22 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 14:29:22 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?0KPQtNCw0LvQtdC90L3Ri9C1INC/0L7RgNGC0Ys=?=
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References: <20201230074044.16e3fac2@i11.co>
 <6dbc1778-0e45-f57a-814b-117cd7d1c24a@grosbein.net>
 <20201230173737.5753136c@i11.co>
 <97d9dd87-2efe-4590-7d15-4cb88194139f@grosbein.net>
 <20210101104310.3901fd65@i11.co>
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09.01.2021 10:56, Vladislav V. Prodan ?????:
> ? ????? ???-?? ???????????????? ????????? ????? emulators/qemu-guest-agent ?
> 
> ?????, ????? ??????? ???? - https://github.com/aborche/qemu-guest-agent

??????? ????????? ???????????? ??? ????? ??????.

?? ????? ?????? ? ???, ????? ????? ???? ????????? ????????????????
?????????? ????, ? ??? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ???????? pkg install,
? ?? ?????? ????????????? ??????????.

?????????? ? FreeBSD Bugzilla ??????? PR ? ?????????? ???? ????,
??????????? ? ???????????? ? Porters Handbook. ???? ???? ?????????????/????????????
?????? FreeBSD 12+, ? Handbook ???????, ??? ??? ???????? ? Makefile ?????.

???? ?????????? ????? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ?????? ??? ??????.
???? PR ??? ???? - ???????? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ????.



From vvd at unislabs.com  Wed Jan 20 19:06:34 2021
From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:06:34 +0300
Subject: [freebsd] boot
In-Reply-To: <CAA2O=b8jvWFmnx3hWHSs2vO+1-w=zE0g+v7ghqaXEHm=b-eKTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20201229052837.34abf35a@i11.co>
 <20201229072856.GM663@netch.kiev.ua>
 <707f60ec-65b8-97bd-f756-b37456dde69e@unislabs.com>
 <CAA2O=b8jvWFmnx3hWHSs2vO+1-w=zE0g+v7ghqaXEHm=b-eKTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a0e80018-a24d-b529-8134-8d1fdce47bcb@unislabs.com>

20.01.2021 19:16, Anton Saietskii ?????:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 5:42 PM ???????? ???????? <vvd at unislabs.com> wrote:
>> 29.12.2020 10:28, Valentin Nechayev ?????:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>>    Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 05:28:37, nikolay.kostirya wrote about "[freebsd] boot":
>>>
>>>> ?? ???????? ?????????? ? ???? ??????????? ? ?????? ?????? Windows 7 ? FreeBSD.
>>>> ???????? ??????? ?? ?????? NTLDR, ??????? ?????????? boot1 ??? ??????? ????? /boot/boot1 ? ???? C:\bootbsd.bin.
>>>>
>>>> ??????. ??? boot1 ??????? boot2?
>>>>
>>>> ?? ???????? ? ???? ?????????? boot0 ??? ?????? boot0cfg, ? ??? FreeBSD.
>>>> ???????????, boot1 ???? boot2 ?? ??? ?? ???????, ??? ??? ???????????
>>>>
>>>> ?? ??? boot1 ????? ??????? boot2, ????? ??????????? ?? ??? NTLDR?
>>> 1. ???????? ??????? MBR (?????? 4 ????????? ???????) ? ?????????? ?????
>>> (??? ????? ??? BIOS ???????, ?????? 0x80).
>>> 2. ? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ? id 0xA5 ? ????????????? ?????????
>>> "???????????" (flags & 0x80).
>>> 3. ???? ? ?????? 2 ?????? ?? ???????, ?????? ?????? ?????? ? id
>>> 0xA5, ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?????.
>>> 4. ? ?????? ??????? ???????? 8KB ? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ??????
>>> boot2 ? ???????????.
>>>
>>> ??-??? ???? ?? ???????, ??? ????? - ???? ?? ????? ????? ????????
>>> ??????????, ?????? ?? ??? ????.
>>>
>>> ?????? ??? ?????? ???????? ???: ? ??? ??? ???? readonly ??????? UFS.
>>> ??? ???? /boot.config ?? ???????, ???? ?? ???????? ??????? ??????????
>>> (???? ??? ? ???????? BIOS) ? /boot/loader ?? ???-?? ??????. ???? ???,
>>> ?? ???? ??? ?? ??????? ??????????. ???? ?? ?????, ?????? /boot/kernel,
>>> ?? ??? ?????? ?????, ???????? ?????? ? ????????? ???????.
>>> /boot/loader ??? ????? ????????? Forth, ? ?? ???????? ???????? ???
>>> ?????? ??????? ???? ? ??????? ? ??????.
>>>
>>>> ???? ? ???????? ??? ???? FreeBSD ? ?????? ???????????? NTLDR, ?? ??? boot1 ?????? ?????? boot2.
>>> ?????, ?? ?????? ??????.
>>> ?? ????? ???? ????????? ??????? ????? ???????????, ?????? ?? ?????
>>> ????? boot2 (?, ??? ????? ???? ??????, /boot.config, ? ??? ?? ?????
>>> ????? ????? ??????, ?????? ????? ??????? /boot/loader ??? ???-??
>>> ?????? ????).
>>>
>>>> ??? bsdlabel ? gpart ?? ?????? ???????? /boot/boot1 ? ?????? ??????? ?????, ?? ? ??????????? ?????????? ?? boot2? ? ??? ????? ????? ??? NTLDR ???????????? ?? ???????????? /boot/boot1, ? ??? ?????? dd ??????????? boot1 ? ??????? ?????? FreeBSD?
>>> ???, ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????.
>>>
>>>> ?????? ?????? ??? FreeBSD, ????????????? ?? ?????? ????.
>>>> ? /usr/share/doc/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER ??????????, ??? ????? ??? ?????? boot0cfg ??????????? boot0. ? ????
>>>>
>>>> ?????? ??????? boot0, ??? ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ??????
>>>>
>>>> boot0cfg -B -d 0x81 -o setdrv,noupdate -s 1
>>>>
>>>> ??? ??? ?? ?????????, ? ????? ?????? ??????? boot0 ? ????????? MBR ??????? ??????
>>>>
>>>> boot0cfg -B -o setdrv,noupdate -s 5
>>> ? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??? ???????? ?? ???????? ? BIOS?
>>>
>>> ???? BIOS ????? ???????? ?? ??????? ?????, ?? AFAIK ??? ?????? ???
>>> ?? ?????, boot0 ????? ?????? ????? ?????.
>>> ??? ??? "-s 5" ?????, ???? BIOS ????? ??????? ?????? ???? ? ???????
>>> ????? boot0 ?????????? ???????? ?? ??????.
>>>
>>>> ?????? ??????.
>>>> ??????, ???? 3 ????? ? ????? ????? boot0, ?? ?? F5 ??? ????? ????????? ?? ??????
>>>> 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 1 -> 2
>>>> ??? ????
>>> ????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?? ????????, ? ?? ?????? HDD.
>>>
>>> === cut ===
>>>           /*
>>>            * If it was illegal or we cycled through them, go back to drive 0.
>>>            */
>>>                   xorb %al,%al                    # Drive 0
>>> === end cut ===
>>>
>>>> ????????? ??????.
>>>> ?? ???????? ? ???? 4 ???????: ?????? 2 ? FreeBSD, ?????? - ????????????? home, ????????? ???????.
>>>> ????????? ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ???????????? ??????????. ????????, ??????? ?? 11.2, ????? 12.1 - ?? ?????? 11, ? ?????? 10 ?????? 12. ???? ??? ?????????, ??? ????????? ??, ????? ????????? 11.
>>>>
>>>> ??????: ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? GPT ??? ??? ?????? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ????? MBR? ????? ?? ????? ???????????? ?? ????? ZFS? ? ??? ?? ??????????? ????????, ??? ??? ?? ?????, ? ??????? ????. :-)
>>> ???? ????? ??? ????? ?????? EFI ????????, ? ??? ???????????? GPT ???
>>> ???, ?? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ?????????? ?? EFI. ??? ???????? ??????,
>>> ?? ?????????? ?????? ? "?? ??????".
>>> ???? ?? ????? ?? MBR, ?? ? ?????? ????????????? GPT ??????, ??? boot1
>>> ??? ??? ?? ?????, ??? ???? ?????? ? ???? gptboot, ?? ??? ?????
>>> ????????? ??????.
>>>
>>> ??? ZFS ????? ????????? ??, ??? ?? ?????? ?????, ?? ? ?????, ??? ???
>>> ?????? ????? ??????????, ? ?? ???????? ? ???? ???????.
>>>
>>>
>>> -netch-
>> ??????? ????????? ZFS, ?? ????????????? ?? ?bare-metal? ????????.
>> ??? ???????????? ??????????? ?? ????????????? ?????? ZFS ??????
>> ????????, ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ?????????.
>> ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????? ???????????, ? ??? ?? ????????
>> ????????????? (VirtualBox) ??????, ?? ??? 12.x ??? ?? ??? ????? - ???
>> ????????? ?????? ARC ??? ?????????????, ? ?? ??? ??????.
>> ?????????? ? /boot/loader.conf ???-?? ????:
>> vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable="1"
>> vfs.zfs.arc_min="67108864"
>> vfs.zfs.arc_max="536870912"
> ? ?????? ?? ="64M", ="512M"? ????? ??? ?????, ? ?????? ???????.

??? ?????, ?? ???????????? ?? ????. ???? ??????? ??? ?? 10 - ?? ???? 
?????????????? ?? ??? ????? ??? ???.

>> ?????? ? 12.2 ????????? ? Wired:
>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252227
>> ???????? ??? ????????????? ??????? vm.max_wired.
>>
>> ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ????: soft raid, ?????? lz4, ????????? ?
>> ????????? ?????? ??????????, ?????????? ? NFS ????????.
>>
>> ?? ?????????? ? ?? ??????? ???????? ?? ????????? ZFS.
>> ?? ??????? ??????? ????? ??? ? 16GB ?????? ?? ???? ?? ????????????. ?
>> ??????? ?????? ? 8GB. ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ??? ????
>> ??????? ???????.
> ???, ???????, ????????? ???? ?????????? ? ??????? 9.?. ??????? ?? ???
> ??? ??? ???????, ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ?? ? buf/cache, ? ? ?????????
> ?????? + wired?

??? ??? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ???????? ??????????? ??????
??? ?????? ??????? (12.x?) ????? ????????? ???????? ARC ???????. ?? ? 
???????????? ZFS ????? UFS ??? ?????????? ???? ?? ??? ????????.
?? ?????? ??? ? ?????? ?????????? ? 1GB ?????? ? ??????, ????? ??????? ? 
??? ????? ?? ZFS ?? ???????? ???????.


From gmn at gmn.org.ua  Thu Jan 21 10:47:47 2021
From: gmn at gmn.org.ua (Mikhail Golub)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 10:47:47 +0200
Subject: [freebsd] =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
Message-ID: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>

??????? ??????? ?????.

????????, ?????????, ?? ???? ??????.

??????? FreeBSD 12.1 ?? ?????????.
??? ZFS ? ????? ??????.
?? ???? ???????? ???????.
????? ???????? refquota 2 ??.
?? ???? ???????? ??????? ????? ??????? ????? (?????? 7z):
1220 folders, 7395 files, 460629747 bytes (440 MiB)

? 7z ? mc ???????? ?????????? ??????.

? du ? df - ?????? ?????? ??????????? ????????????.
# df -h /www/sites/netapp-event
Filesystem                Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
www/sites/netapp-event    2,0G    949M    1,1G    46% 
/www/sites/netapp-event

# du -d 0 -h /www/sites/netapp-event
953M    /www/sites/netapp-event

NAME                    PROPERTY         VALUE          SOURCE
www/sites/netapp-event  quota            none           local
www/sites/netapp-event  refquota         2G             local
www/sites/netapp-event  compression      off            default
www/sites/netapp-event  usedbydataset    949M           -
www/sites/netapp-event  usedbysnapshots  317M           -
www/sites/netapp-event  dedup            off            default

recordsize ??? 2 ??. ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? 128 ??.

??-?? ???? ??????? ? ??????????? ????????????? ????????? ?????????????


From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Jan 21 11:18:46 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:18:46 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <b1b9c374-1c3b-94e0-e7d4-9be003c174d9@grosbein.net>

21.01.2021 15:47, Mikhail Golub ?????:
> ??????? ??????? ?????.
> 
> ????????, ?????????, ?? ???? ??????.
> 
> ??????? FreeBSD 12.1 ?? ?????????.
> ??? ZFS ? ????? ??????.
> ?? ???? ???????? ???????.
> ????? ???????? refquota 2 ??.
> ?? ???? ???????? ??????? ????? ??????? ????? (?????? 7z):
> 1220 folders, 7395 files, 460629747 bytes (440 MiB)
> 
> ? 7z ? mc ???????? ?????????? ??????.
> 
> ? du ? df - ?????? ?????? ??????????? ????????????.
> # df -h /www/sites/netapp-event
> Filesystem                Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> www/sites/netapp-event    2,0G    949M    1,1G    46% /www/sites/netapp-event
> 
> # du -d 0 -h /www/sites/netapp-event
> 953M    /www/sites/netapp-event
> 
> NAME                    PROPERTY         VALUE          SOURCE
> www/sites/netapp-event  quota            none           local
> www/sites/netapp-event  refquota         2G             local
> www/sites/netapp-event  compression      off            default
> www/sites/netapp-event  usedbydataset    949M           -
> www/sites/netapp-event  usedbysnapshots  317M           -
> www/sites/netapp-event  dedup            off            default

??? ?????? ?? ????, ?? ????? ZFS.

> recordsize ??? 2 ??. ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? 128 ??.

????? recordsize ?????? ?? ????? ???????????? ????? ??????, ?? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??????????.

> ??-?? ???? ??????? ? ??????????? ????????????? ????????? ?????????????

df ????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ????. du ??????? ???, ?????? du ????? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ??????
??? ????????????? ????? -A ? ??? ????.

mc ? 7z ??????? ???? ?, ????????, ??????? ???????????. ? ?????? - ?????? ? ???.



From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Thu Jan 21 11:27:20 2021
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:27:20 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <20210121092720.GY663@netch.kiev.ua>

 Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:47:47, gmn wrote about "[freebsd] ZFS - ?????????? ????????????": 

> ?? ???? ???????? ??????? ????? ??????? ????? (?????? 7z):
> 1220 folders, 7395 files, 460629747 bytes (440 MiB)
> ? 7z ? mc ???????? ?????????? ??????.
> ? du ? df - ?????? ?????? ??????????? ????????????.

? ??? ???????, 7z ? mc ???????? ????? ??????? ????. du ??
????????? ????????? ?? ??????, ??? ?? ?? ???????? (?????? ?????
????? ?? ?????? FS). ??? df ?? ZFS ?????? ?? ?????...

> recordsize ??? 2 ??. ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? 128 ??.

????????, ?? ????? ??????? ?????? ??????????.


-netch-

From gmn at gmn.org.ua  Thu Jan 21 11:37:04 2021
From: gmn at gmn.org.ua (Mikhail Golub)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:37:04 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <b1b9c374-1c3b-94e0-e7d4-9be003c174d9@grosbein.net>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <b1b9c374-1c3b-94e0-e7d4-9be003c174d9@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <e01c7d56-eed6-b827-19a6-63a0636f33dd@gmn.org.ua>

>> recordsize ??? 2 ??. ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? 128 ??.
> 
> ????? recordsize ?????? ?? ????? ???????????? ????? ??????, ?? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??????????.

??? ? ???????.
?????? ?????? ????? ???????? ????????.

> df ????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ????. du ??????? ???, ?????? du ????? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ??????
> ??? ????????????? ????? -A ? ??? ????.
> 
> mc ? 7z ??????? ???? ?, ????????, ??????? ???????????. ? ?????? - ?????? ? ???.
> 
????????????? ???????, ?????? ?? ?????, ??????????????.
450 ?? (?????).
?? ?? 950, ??? ??????? df ??? ???? ZFS.
?.?. mc ? 7z ??????? ??????.


From vvd at unislabs.com  Thu Jan 21 11:48:45 2021
From: vvd at unislabs.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JLQu9Cw0LTQuNC80LjRgCDQlNGA0YPQt9C10L3QutC+?=)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:48:45 +0300
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <e01c7d56-eed6-b827-19a6-63a0636f33dd@gmn.org.ua>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <b1b9c374-1c3b-94e0-e7d4-9be003c174d9@grosbein.net>
 <e01c7d56-eed6-b827-19a6-63a0636f33dd@gmn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <3e7d9b23-0997-ad17-bfc7-63213abdc021@unislabs.com>

21.01.2021 12:37, Mikhail Golub ?????:
>> df ????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ????. du ??????? ???, ?????? du ????? 
>> ?????????? ?????? ?????? ??????
>> ??? ????????????? ????? -A ? ??? ????.
>>
>> mc ? 7z ??????? ???? ?, ????????, ??????? ???????????. ? ?????? - 
>> ?????? ? ???.
>>
> ????????????? ???????, ?????? ?? ?????, ??????????????.
> 450 ?? (?????).
> ?? ?? 950, ??? ??????? df ??? ???? ZFS.
> ?.?. mc ? 7z ??????? ??????.
??????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?????????, ?? ??? ??? ???????? ?????-?????? 
????????? ???????

From gmn at gmn.org.ua  Thu Jan 21 11:51:27 2021
From: gmn at gmn.org.ua (Mikhail Golub)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:51:27 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <3e7d9b23-0997-ad17-bfc7-63213abdc021@unislabs.com>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <b1b9c374-1c3b-94e0-e7d4-9be003c174d9@grosbein.net>
 <e01c7d56-eed6-b827-19a6-63a0636f33dd@gmn.org.ua>
 <3e7d9b23-0997-ad17-bfc7-63213abdc021@unislabs.com>
Message-ID: <083f4f7d-2829-19fe-da43-27e6dfc5ee0a@gmn.org.ua>

>>> mc ? 7z ??????? ???? ?, ????????, ??????? ???????????. ? ?????? - 
>>> ?????? ? ???.
>>>
>> ????????????? ???????, ?????? ?? ?????, ??????????????.
>> 450 ?? (?????).
>> ?? ?? 950, ??? ??????? df ??? ???? ZFS.
>> ?.?. mc ? 7z ??????? ??????.
> ??????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?????????, ?? ??? ??? ???????? ?????-?????? 
> ????????? ???????

???. ???? snapshots.
?? ??? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ???.


From vladimir.sharun at ukr.net  Thu Jan 21 12:00:22 2021
From: vladimir.sharun at ukr.net (Vladimir Sharun)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:00:22 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <1611222926.559290000.jwy8w6zi@frv53.fwdcdn.com>

??????,

`du -d 1 -h` ? ????????? ??????? ?? ?????????, ??? ? ???? ??????????? c mc.

???? ??? ???-?? ?????????, ?? ??? ???????? ????? ?????? ? ??? ????, ???? ?? ????????? - ?? ???-?? ????? ???-??, ???? ?? ????? ??? mc/7z

? ????? ??? ???????? ???-?? ?? ?????????? ashift ? zpool (4k) ? ????? ? 2k: ?? ???????? ?????????? ???????????? ?????.
????? ??? ?????? ???????, 128? - ????? ?? ????? ??? ?????. ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????, ????? ???? ????-?????? ??????.

21 ????? 2021, 10:48:05, ??? "Mikhail Golub" <gmn at gmn.org.ua>:

??????? ??????? ?????.

????????, ?????????, ?? ???? ??????.

??????? FreeBSD 12.1 ?? ?????????.
??? ZFS ? ????? ??????.
?? ???? ???????? ???????.
????? ???????? refquota 2 ??.
?? ???? ???????? ??????? ????? ??????? ????? (?????? 7z):
1220 folders, 7395 files, 460629747 bytes (440 MiB)

? 7z ? mc ???????? ?????????? ??????.

? du ? df - ?????? ?????? ??????????? ????????????.
# df -h /www/sites/netapp-event
Filesystem                Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
www/sites/netapp-event    2,0G    949M    1,1G    46% 
/www/sites/netapp-event

# du -d 0 -h /www/sites/netapp-event
953M    /www/sites/netapp-event

NAME                    PROPERTY         VALUE          SOURCE
www/sites/netapp-event  quota            none           local
www/sites/netapp-event  refquota         2G             local
www/sites/netapp-event  compression      off            default
www/sites/netapp-event  usedbydataset    949M           -
www/sites/netapp-event  usedbysnapshots  317M           -
www/sites/netapp-event  dedup            off            default

recordsize ??? 2 ??. ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? 128 ??.

??-?? ???? ??????? ? ??????????? ????????????? ????????? ?????????????

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From admin at support.od.ua  Thu Jan 21 12:40:30 2021
From: admin at support.od.ua (Vladislav V. Prodan)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:40:30 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
	=?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
	=?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <083f4f7d-2829-19fe-da43-27e6dfc5ee0a@gmn.org.ua>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <b1b9c374-1c3b-94e0-e7d4-9be003c174d9@grosbein.net>
 <e01c7d56-eed6-b827-19a6-63a0636f33dd@gmn.org.ua>
 <3e7d9b23-0997-ad17-bfc7-63213abdc021@unislabs.com>
 <083f4f7d-2829-19fe-da43-27e6dfc5ee0a@gmn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <CAH4R=3nRa6_tDfx3EP7zSgG5maLmMu=0sS=x+rXkUNoR94P5tA@mail.gmail.com>

??, 21 ???. 2021 ?. ? 11:51, Mikhail Golub <gmn at gmn.org.ua>:

> >>> mc ? 7z ??????? ???? ?, ????????, ??????? ???????????. ? ?????? -
> >>> ?????? ? ???.
> >>>
> >> ????????????? ???????, ?????? ?? ?????, ??????????????.
> >> 450 ?? (?????).
> >> ?? ?? 950, ??? ??????? df ??? ???? ZFS.
> >> ?.?. mc ? 7z ??????? ??????.
> > ??????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?????????, ?? ??? ??? ???????? ?????-??????
> > ????????? ???????
>
> ???. ???? snapshots.
>

??????, ???????? ?????, ?????????? ??????????.

-- 
 Vladislav V. Prodan
 System & Network Administrator
 support.od.ua
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From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Jan 21 12:55:15 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 17:55:15 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <760d1232-918e-6e5f-c550-d78316cc5553@grosbein.net>

21.01.2021 15:47, Mikhail Golub ?????:
> ??????? ??????? ?????.
> 
> ????????, ?????????, ?? ???? ??????.
> 
> ??????? FreeBSD 12.1 ?? ?????????.
> ??? ZFS ? ????? ??????.
> ?? ???? ???????? ???????.
> ????? ???????? refquota 2 ??.
> ?? ???? ???????? ??????? ????? ??????? ????? (?????? 7z):
> 1220 folders, 7395 files, 460629747 bytes (440 MiB)

1220+7395=8615 ???????????????? ???????? ?? ???????? ???????,
460629747/8615 = 53468 ???? ?? ?????? ? ???????.

949M/439M = 2.16, ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ? ????????????????
???????? ?? fs ????? ?????? ?????, ??? ??? ????? ? ???????...

??????: ??? ?????????? diskinfo -v ??? "?????" ? ???? ??????????
? ??? zdb -C | egrep 'ashift| name'



From gmn at gmn.org.ua  Thu Jan 21 13:12:56 2021
From: gmn at gmn.org.ua (Mikhail Golub)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:12:56 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <1611222926.559290000.jwy8w6zi@frv53.fwdcdn.com>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <1611222926.559290000.jwy8w6zi@frv53.fwdcdn.com>
Message-ID: <bc3214d9-87c5-b0ea-ffa7-c45c174b36d4@gmn.org.ua>

? recordsize ????.
????? ????? ? ?? (????? ????? recordsize ? 2 ?? ?? 128 ??), ?????? ???????.
??? ?????? ?????????.

? ?? ???? "????? ??? ?????? ???????, 128? - ????? ?? ????? ??? ?????" - 
?? ... ?? ??? ???? ??????, ????????, ???? ??????. ??? ?????? (??????? 
?????) ?????????? ???? ??????.
? ??????-?? ????? (??? ???-?? ???????), ??? ??? ???? (????? ?????? 
??????) ????? ??????? ?????? 2 ??.

On 21.01.2021 12:00, Vladimir Sharun wrote:
> du -d 1 -h


From gmn at gmn.org.ua  Thu Jan 21 13:15:29 2021
From: gmn at gmn.org.ua (Mikhail Golub)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:15:29 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <760d1232-918e-6e5f-c550-d78316cc5553@grosbein.net>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <760d1232-918e-6e5f-c550-d78316cc5553@grosbein.net>
Message-ID: <12c69b36-b8a0-b3c8-5734-553b6cf7e17c@gmn.org.ua>

??? ???? ? recordsize.

On 21.01.2021 12:55, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> iskinfo -v

# diskinfo -v da1
da1
         512             # sectorsize
         161061273600    # mediasize in bytes (150G)
         314572800       # mediasize in sectors
         0               # stripesize
         0               # stripeoffset
         19581           # Cylinders according to firmware.
         255             # Heads according to firmware.
         63              # Sectors according to firmware.
         VMware Virtual disk     # Disk descr.
                         # Disk ident.
         No              # TRIM/UNMAP support
         Unknown         # Rotation rate in RPM
         Not_Zoned       # Zone Mode


# zdb -C | egrep 'ashift| name'
     name: 'tank'
             ashift: 9
     name: 'www'
             ashift: 12



From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Jan 21 13:21:55 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:21:55 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
 =?utf-8?b?WkZTIC0g0LfQsNC90LjQvNCw0LXQvNC+0LUg0L/RgNC+?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YHRgtGA0LDQvdGB0YLQstC+?=
In-Reply-To: <12c69b36-b8a0-b3c8-5734-553b6cf7e17c@gmn.org.ua>
References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <760d1232-918e-6e5f-c550-d78316cc5553@grosbein.net>
 <12c69b36-b8a0-b3c8-5734-553b6cf7e17c@gmn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <5abbd981-3463-b04a-321a-de10064c760b@grosbein.net>

21.01.2021 18:15, Mikhail Golub ?????:
> ??? ???? ? recordsize.

> # diskinfo -v da1
> da1
>         512             # sectorsize

> 
> # zdb -C | egrep 'ashift| name'
>     name: 'tank'
>             ashift: 9
>     name: 'www'
>             ashift: 12

??, recordsize 2KB ??? ashift 12 (4KB) ????????, ?????? ????.
????? ??????????? ??????? recordsize 4KB, ???????? ?????? ????.


From vladimir.sharun at ukr.net  Thu Jan 21 13:54:07 2021
From: vladimir.sharun at ukr.net (Vladimir Sharun)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:54:07 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
 <1611222926.559290000.jwy8w6zi@frv53.fwdcdn.com>
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??????,

> ?? ??? ???? ??????, ????????, ???? ??????.

?? ????? ??????????? ???????? ? ? ?.?. ? ??? ??????.


21 ????? 2021, 13:13:01, ??? "Mikhail Golub" <gmn at gmn.org.ua>:

? recordsize ????.
????? ????? ? ?? (????? ????? recordsize ? 2 ?? ?? 128 ??), ?????? ???????.
??? ?????? ?????????.

? ?? ???? "????? ??? ?????? ???????, 128? - ????? ?? ????? ??? ?????" - 
?? ... ?? ??? ???? ??????, ????????, ???? ??????. ??? ?????? (??????? 
?????) ?????????? ???? ??????.
? ??????-?? ????? (??? ???-?? ???????), ??? ??? ???? (????? ?????? 
??????) ????? ??????? ?????? 2 ??.

On 21.01.2021 12:00, Vladimir Sharun wrote:
> du -d 1 -h
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From gmn at gmn.org.ua  Thu Jan 21 14:42:09 2021
From: gmn at gmn.org.ua (Mikhail Golub)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:42:09 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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References: <c5583972-c9f9-02fa-a674-f5501f7f02c4@gmn.org.ua>
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????? ?????-?? ?? ??? ??????. ?? ????? ???? ???.
??, ??? ?? ??. ???????????? ...

https://www.percona.com/blog/2017/12/07/hands-look-zfs-with-mysql/
https://skeletor.org.ua/?p=4212

On 21.01.2021 13:54, Vladimir Sharun wrote:
> ??????,
> 
>> ?? ??? ???? ??????, ????????, ???? ??????.
> 
> ?? ????? ??????????? ???????? ? ? ?.?. ? ??? ??????.
> 


From vladimir.sharun at ukr.net  Thu Jan 21 15:40:16 2021
From: vladimir.sharun at ukr.net (Vladimir Sharun)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:40:16 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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??????,

recordsize - ??? ??????????? ??????, ????? - ashift.

???????? ??????? ????? ???????????? ????? ?????? ?????, ??????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????, ? ?? ?????? 128?, ??? ?????? zfs, ??? 128? ??? ??????? ??? ???????? (256? - ??? ??????????? "?????"), ashift - 12

Block Size Histogram

?block ? psize ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?lsize ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?asize
? size ? Count ? Size ? Cum. ?Count ? Size ? Cum. ?Count ? Size ? Cum.
? ?512: ? 116K ?57.9M ?57.9M ? 116K ?57.9M ?57.9M ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0
? ? 1K: ? 129K ? 156M ? 214M ? 129K ? 156M ? 214M ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0
? ? 2K: ? 136K ? 359M ? 573M ? 136K ? 359M ? 573M ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0
? ? 4K: ? 214K ? 890M ?1.43G ? 116K ? 614M ?1.16G ? 484K ?1.89G ?1.89G
? ? 8K: ?93.0K ? 889M ?2.30G ?68.7K ? 759M ?1.90G ? 198K ?1.69G ?3.58G
? ?16K: ?72.4K ?1.50G ?3.80G ? 100K ?1.90G ?3.80G ?77.2K ?1.58G ?5.16G
? ?32K: ? 135K ?6.07G ?9.87G ?31.8K ?1.39G ?5.19G ? 135K ?6.07G ?11.2G
? ?64K: ?74.6K ?5.49G ?15.4G ?19.7K ?1.72G ?6.91G ?74.4K ?5.47G ?16.7G
? 128K: ?5.21K ? 667M ?16.0G ? 258K ?32.2G ?39.1G ?5.45K ? 720M ?17.4G
? 256K: ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ?16.0G ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ?39.1G ? ?174 ?45.7M ?17.5G

??? ?????????? ?????????? ????????? - asize. 484? ?????? 4? ?????? 5.45? ?????? 128?. ??? ????? ??????? ? ???? ?????????? ??. 
? ??? ???????? ?????? ? ?????? 1? ? ?? ??????? ?????????:
Block Size Histogram

?block ? psize ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?lsize ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?asize
? size ? Count ? Size ? Cum. ?Count ? Size ? Cum. ?Count ? Size ? Cum.
? ?512: ?4.75K ?2.38M ?2.38M ?2.73K ?1.36M ?1.36M ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0
? ? 1K: ?68.9K ?72.7M ?75.0M ?1.26K ?1.48M ?2.84M ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0
? ? 2K: ?37.7K ?94.6M ? 170M ?2.04K ?6.41M ?9.25M ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0
? ? 4K: ?16.8K ?69.8M ? 239M ?23.1K ? 128M ? 138M ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ?0
? ? 8K: ?5.14K ?60.5M ? 300M ?3.62K ?43.6M ? 181M ?23.3K ? 187M ? 187M
? ?16K: ?5.88K ? 133M ? 433M ?19.4K ? 335M ? 516M ? 111K ?1.81G ?1.99G
? ?32K: ?21.0K ? 984M ?1.38G ?11.5K ? 566M ?1.06G ?9.45K ? 415M ?2.40G
? ?64K: ?13.7K ?1.17G ?2.56G ?7.66K ? 623M ?1.66G ?25.8K ?2.29G ?4.68G
? 128K: ? 580K ?73.3G ?75.9G ? 658K ?82.4G ?84.1G ? 579K ?90.7G ?95.4G
? 256K: ?24.0K ?8.96G ?84.9G ?2.60K ?1.01G ?85.1G ?20.8K ?7.66G ? 103G
? 512K: ? 183K ? 146G ? 231G ?11.2K ?9.13G ?94.2G ?93.5K ?79.7G ? 183G
? ? 1M: ?6.69M ?6.69T ?6.91T ?6.90M ?6.90T ?6.99T ?6.78M ?8.14T ?8.32T

?????? ??????? ? ?????? ??? ????????? ??????.

??? ??? zfs-? ? ????? ?????????? ???????.
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From paul_t at ukr.net  Fri Jan 22 01:13:15 2021
From: paul_t at ukr.net (Paul Tatarenko)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 01:13:15 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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On 21.01.2021 11:37, Mikhail Golub wrote:
> ????????????? ???????, ?????? ?? ?????, ??????????????.
> 450 ?? (?????).
> ?? ?? 950, ??? ??????? df ??? ???? ZFS.
> ?.?. mc ? 7z ??????? ??????.
>
??? ???? ???? ??? ?? ??? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ? ????????? ???. ??? 
?? ??? ????????! :)

?????? ?????? ? ?????????? ??? ???????????? - ??? ??????? ???????. mc ? 
7z ????????? ???, ? ??? ??? ? ???????? - ?????? ??????. ?????????? ????? 
??????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ?????? ????? ??? ?????????? ? ?? ????? 
?????????? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????. du (disk usage) ? df (disk 
free), ????????, ????????? ?????????????, ??????? ??????? ?? ????? ? 
?????? ?????????? ????? ?? ?? ??????????. ?????? ? ??????? - ???? 
???????? 1 ???? ???????? ?? ????? 1 ???????? ????, ??????? ????????? 
?????????? ?? ??? ???????? ??????.

??? ??????? ????????? ???????? ? ????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? ? 
??????? ??????? ? ??????????? ?????? (???????? ?????? :)). ??????? ? 
??????? ?????? ? ? ????????????, ??????? ??? ?? ?????, ?? ???? NTFS ? 
??????????? ?? ????????? (??????? 4 ??) - ????? 50 ????????. ?? ? ??? 
????, ???????, ?? ??? ????.

?????, ???? ????????? ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ??, ?? ??????? ????? ?? 
?????? 50 ?????.

? ?? ???????? ??????, ?????? ? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? ????????.

-- 
Best regards,
  Paul Tatarenko                       http://tatarenko.kiev.ua
[listening to coolest sound - silence]
[Silence is sexy - Einsturzende Neubauten]

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From skeletor at lissyara.su  Fri Jan 29 10:14:34 2021
From: skeletor at lissyara.su (skeletor)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 10:14:34 +0200
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???? ??????.
????? ?????????? ? 12.1 ?? 12.2 ???????? ???????? reply-to (???? 2 
?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????? ??????, ? ?? 
????? route map) ? ????????? pf. ?????? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ? ?????? 
??????? ??????. ??? ????? ?? tcpdump'a ??? ?????? ?????? ???????? route 
map ? ????? ?? ????????? ?? ??????? reply-to / route-to.

????? ? freebsd-pf at freebsd.org, ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ??? ???-?? 
?????????? ? ??????? ????? ? ??? ???????? ? ????? ??? ?????? :) . ??? 
????? ????? ???????? bug report?

???? ???? - ???? ???????? ???????, ?? ????????????, ??? ???? ? ???, ??? 
??? ??? ????????? ????? ?? 2-? ??????? (??????? ?? ?????, ??? ?????????? 
???????? ?????????? ????? ?????)

PS. ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ? ???? static route, ?? ??? ???????? ? 
?? ?????? ?????????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Jan 29 10:26:05 2021
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 15:26:05 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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In-Reply-To: <b02ae105-39b8-2a7b-b584-703976412c40@lissyara.su>
References: <b02ae105-39b8-2a7b-b584-703976412c40@lissyara.su>
Message-ID: <ccef5363-6a6b-8dff-1df4-869734cc19f3@grosbein.net>

29.01.2021 15:14, skeletor ?????:
> ???? ??????.
> ????? ?????????? ? 12.1 ?? 12.2 ???????? ???????? reply-to (???? 2 ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ?????????, ?????? ??????, ? ?? ????? route map) ? ????????? pf. ?????? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ? ?????? ??????? ??????. ??? ????? ?? tcpdump'a ??? ?????? ?????? ???????? route map ? ????? ?? ????????? ?? ??????? reply-to / route-to.
> 
> ????? ? freebsd-pf at freebsd.org, ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ??? ???-?? ?????????? ? ??????? ????? ? ??? ???????? ? ????? ??? ?????? :) . ??? ????? ????? ???????? bug report?
> 
> ???? ???? - ???? ???????? ???????, ?? ????????????, ??? ???? ? ???, ??? ??? ??? ????????? ????? ?? 2-? ??????? (??????? ?? ?????, ??? ?????????? ???????? ?????????? ????? ?????)
> 
> PS. ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ? ???? static route, ?? ??? ???????? ? ?? ?????? ?????????.

???? ?????? ???-?????? ? ????? ??????????? ? freebsd-net@ (??????? ???? ???????) ?? ??????? ?? PR.
? ??? pf ?? ??????????? ???????, ?? ???????? (????????? ipfw fwd ??? ????? ??).