From spell at itl.ua  Sat Jan  1 16:04:07 2022
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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 14:04:07 +0000
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31 ??????? 2021 ?., 22:52, "Valentin Nechayev" <netch at netch.kiev.ua> ???????:

> hi,
> 
> Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 17:28:29, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 
> 
>> ??????, ??? ??? ???.
>> ? ? dmesg.boot ????????? ????? real memory ? available memory - ??? ???? ?? ??????
>> ????????? ??????????
> 
> ??.
> 
>> ?????????, ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?? ?? 6 ?????? (? ????? ??????? ????? 3).
> 
> ?????? ??????. ????? ?????? ??????. ?????? ?????? ??????? ???????...
> 
> ???? ????????, ?? ??????? ???????? ???. ? x86 ???????????
> ????????????? ?
> 1) 16-?????? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 1MB;
> 2) 32-?????? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 4GB.
> 
> ?????? ???????? ? ????, ??? ?????? 0xA0000-0xFFFFF (????? ?????
> ??????? 640kB ? ???????? 1MB) ??????? ???????????, ??? ?? ?????? IBM
> PC, ??? ??????????? ?????? ??????? ? ??? BIOS (??????? ??? RAM, ?
> ??????? ??????????? ????? BIOS). ????? ????, ????????? ?????? ?
> ????????? ???????? ?????? ??? ?????? BIOS (??????? ACPI).
> 
> ?????? ?????????? ???????? ???, ??? ????? ??????? ???? ??????? 4GB
> ?????? ??? ????. ????: ????????, local APIC ???? ?????????? - ??
> 0xFEE0_0000 ?? 0xFEE0_0FFF. ?????? ??? ???? ?? ?????.
> ????????? ?????????? ????? ??? ?? ????????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?
> 32-?????? ????????? (???? 4GB), ??? ????? ?????????? ???????? ?? PCI
> ????????????.
> 
> ??????... ?????????? ???? 8GB RAM ????? ???????. ???? ?? ????? ????
> ?????????? ??? ??????? ??????, ?? ??? ?? ?? 0 ?? 0x1_FFFF_FFFF. ??
> ????????? ?????????? ???????? ? ????, ???
> 1) ?????? ???? ???????? ? ????????? ?? 0 ?? 0x9FFFF (?? ????? 640kB),
> ? ??????? ?? ?????? BIOS, ??????? ?????? ???? ???????? ? ? ????????
> ??????;
> 2) ?????? ???? ???????? ????? (? ??? 32-?????? ?????? - ????????) ??
> 0x10_0000 ??, ????????, 0xDFFF_FFFF (???????? - ????? ???? ?????? ???
> ??????);
> 3) ??? ????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ???? ??????? 4GB ? ????????
> ?? ????, ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ???????????, shadow BIOS ? ???
> ????? (?????? ?????? ??????? 1MB ??? ????????????, ????????).
> 4) ?????????? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????????
> ?????? (??????? ????????-????????? ???????, ?????? ????????? ?????????
> ?????).
> 
> ? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ???????????? 512MB ???? 4GB ???? ???-????
> ???????? ????. ???? ?? ?????????: ??????? ????? ??????? 8GB-16GB
> ???????????? ?????? ??????? ? ??? ?? ??????, ? ????? ????? ?????? BIOS
> ????????? ????? ?????? ? ????. ????? ????????? ????? ????:
> 1) 0x1000-0x9EFFF (4kB ? ?????? ? ? ????? BIOS ??????? ??? ??????);
> 2) 0x10_0000-0xDFFF_FFFF (?????????? ??????, ???????? 512MB ?? ??????
> ?????????);
> 3) 0x1_0000_0000-0x1_FFFF_FFFF (?????????? ?????? ? ??????? ??????);
> 4) 0x2_E000_0000-0x2_FFFF_FFFF (512MB ??????? ?? ???????? ? ??????
> 4GB, ???????? ?????).
> ??? ???? ? ??????????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ????: ???????
> 0-0x1_FFFF_FFFF ? 0x2_0000_0000-0x3_FFFF_FFFF ????????? ?????????? ??
> ???? ? ??? ?? ?????? (?? ? ??????? ???????? ??????????? 2 ?????????
> ??? I/O), ? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? - ????????? ????? ?? 16GB, ??
> BIOS ?????, ??? ??????? ?????? ????????? ???????, ? ????????? ?? ????
> ?????? ??? ????? ? 512MB, ??????? "??????" ? ?????? 8GB.
> 
> ? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ????????, ???, ????????, ??????????? ??????
> ?? 8GB ? ?????? ?? 16GB, ?????? BIOS ????? ???????? ? ???? ???, ???
> 16GB. ????? ?? ??????? ???? 16GB ??????, ?? ??????? ???????????
> ???????? ?? ?? 512MB, ? 8GB ?????? ??????? ? ?????? 0x8_0000_0000
> (32GB) ? ??? ?????? ???? ???.
> 
> ? ? ?????? ????? ??????? ????????? ????? (????????? 10-12 ???
> ???????????? ? ?????????) ??? ?????? ????? ???? ????????. ?? ? ???????
> BIOS ????? ?? ??????.

???????????, ?? ??? ?? ??????...
??????? KISS ????? ?? ????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Sun Jan  2 09:28:49 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 14:28:49 +0700
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01.01.2022 21:04, spell at itl.ua ?????:

> ???????????, ?? ??? ?? ??????...
> ??????? KISS ????? ?? ????.

????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ??? ?????? ???????????? ???????.
? ??? ?????? - ??? ??, ??? ????????? ??? ???????????? ??????????? ???????
?? ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ????.



From spell at itl.ua  Sun Jan  2 15:14:20 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2022 13:14:20 +0000
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2 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:28, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 01.01.2022 21:04, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> ???????????, ?? ??? ?? ??????...
>> ??????? KISS ????? ?? ????.
> 
> ????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ??? ?????? ???????????? ???????.
> ? ??? ?????? - ??? ??, ??? ????????? ??? ???????????? ??????????? ???????
> ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ????.

??????????, ?????? ? ?????? "640K ?????? ?? ???" ?????????? ??????,
???? ????????. ? ?????? ??? ??, ???, ??????, ?????? ????? ???? ? ??????
?????? ?????? ??? ?????????, ?? "?? ??????", ? ?? ???? ? ???????,
??? ?????? ????????? ????? ????????? ???????? ????????????? ? ?????????? ???????.

?? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ???:

<quote=netch>
? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ????????, ???, ????????, ??????????? ??????
?? 8GB ? ?????? ?? 16GB, ?????? BIOS ????? ???????? ? ???? ???, ???
16GB. ????? ?? ??????? ???? 16GB ??????, ?? ??????? ???????????
???????? ?? ?? 512MB, ? 8GB ?????? ??????? ? ?????? 0x8_0000_0000
(32GB) ? ??? ?????? ???? ???.
</quote>

? ?? ????, ??? ???? ???? ???????, ?? ????? ?? ???.
???? ????, ????? ??????? ?????? ? ???????????? (?????? ?????????? ?????),
?????? ???????? 16G, ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????????????,
? ??????? 8G ?????? ?????? ?? ????????? ????????????, ???????? ?????? ??? ??????. 
??? ? ???? ????? KISS ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????, ?? ? ???????????.

From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Sun Jan  2 16:22:23 2022
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 16:22:23 +0200
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hi,

 Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 13:14:20, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 

> ??????????, ?????? ? ?????? "640K ?????? ?? ???" ?????????? ??????,
> ???? ????????. ? ?????? ??? ??, ???, ??????, ?????? ????? ???? ? ??????
> ?????? ?????? ??? ?????????, ?? "?? ??????",

? ? Intel ??? ???? ????? ??? ???. ????? ????? ???????? ??????????????
?? ????? ??? ?? ???????. ???? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ??????????... ???????
????? ????????? ?????????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? ??????? ???????? ??
?????? ?? ?????.

> ? ?? ????, ??? ???? ???? ???????, ?? ????? ?? ???.
> ???? ????, ????? ??????? ?????? ? ???????????? (?????? ?????????? ?????),
> ?????? ???????? 16G, ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????????????,
> ? ??????? 8G ?????? ?????? ?? ????????? ????????????, ???????? ?????? ??? ??????. 
> ??? ? ???? ????? KISS ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????, ?? ? ???????????.

?? ??-?????? ??? ?????? ???? ?? ?????????, ? ?????? ??? ?????? _??_
?????? (????????, ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? ? SMM ??????...
?? ??? ??? ???? ???????). ????? ????? ????????, ??, ?? ?????? ????
?????? ? ????? ?????????? ???????. ? ????? ??????, ?? ?????????
??????????? ?????? ????? ??????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????.

? ??-?????? - ? ????? ?????? ??? ????????????? ???????

1) ????? ???????? ????????? (???? GRUB ??? ?????? /boot/loader), ???
????? ??????????? ??? ???? ? ??????? ???????, ?? ? ??? ???? ??? ??
?????? ?????? ? ????????? ??????? - ?????? ???? ????????? ??? ? ????
???????. ?? ???? ??????? ???????????? ???? ?????????? ?? ???? 30MB (?
??????? ? ????????) ????? ??????? ??????, ????? ?????? ???????????
??????.
? ???????? ?? ? ??? ??? ?? ????????? ??????? ?????????, ?? ???
?????????? ????? ?????????????????.

2) ????? ???????????????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????? ??????? ?
????, ?? ????? (?? x86) ????????? "????????????" ???????????? ????? ?
??????? ???????? (?????? ? ?????? 1MB) ??? ????????????, ? ?????? ???
???????? ?????????????? ??? ?????????? ??????? ? ??????????? ?? ???
????????? ?? ????????? (4KB, ???? ?? large/huge). ???? ???? ?? ????,
??? ???? "?????????" ????? - 4KB ????, 4KB ???, 4KB ????, 4KB ???... -
??? ?? ??????????.

? ??????, ??? ????? ?????????, ??? ?????? ????????????? ??????? ??????
?????? ?????????? ???? ???? ? ?? ???? ??????????? ??????-??????. ?
?????? ?????? ??????????? ??????????, ??, ????? ???????? ?????? ?
????? ??????? ??????? ??????, ????? ????? ?????????????. ? ??????????
???? ????????? ????????? ? 2 ??????????? ???????????? ? ??????? -
?????? ? ???? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????????? ?
??????????? ??????? ??????????, ???????? - ???????. ? ??? ?????? ??
48GB (32+16) ?? ?????? ????????? (? ????? ??? ??? ????????????) ? 40GB
(32+8) ?? ??????. ????? ?????, ? ?????? ?? ???????. ??????????? ??????
????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ???, ????? ?????????? ???????????
???????.

??????, ?????? ????? ? ?? ???????.


-netch-

From spell at itl.ua  Sun Jan  2 17:54:21 2022
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:54:21 +0000
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2 ?????? 2022 ?., 16:22, "Valentin Nechayev" <netch at netch.kiev.ua> ???????:

> hi,
> 
> Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 13:14:20, spell wrote about "Re: [freebsd] 13.0 memstick ?? ????????": 
> 
>> ??????????, ?????? ? ?????? "640K ?????? ?? ???" ?????????? ??????,
>> ???? ????????. ? ?????? ??? ??, ???, ??????, ?????? ????? ???? ? ??????
>> ?????? ?????? ??? ?????????, ?? "?? ??????",
> 
> ? ? Intel ??? ???? ????? ??? ???. ????? ????? ???????? ??????????????
> ?? ????? ??? ?? ???????. ???? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ??????????... ???????
> ????? ????????? ?????????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? ??????? ???????? ??
> ?????? ?? ?????.
> 
>> ? ?? ????, ??? ???? ???? ???????, ?? ????? ?? ???.
>> ???? ????, ????? ??????? ?????? ? ???????????? (?????? ?????????? ?????),
>> ?????? ???????? 16G, ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????????????,
>> ? ??????? 8G ?????? ?????? ?? ????????? ????????????, ???????? ?????? ??? ??????.
>> ??? ? ???? ????? KISS ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????, ?? ? ???????????.
> 
> ?? ??-?????? ??? ?????? ???? ?? ?????????, ? ?????? ??? ?????? _??_
> ?????? (????????, ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? ? SMM ??????...
> ?? ??? ??? ???? ???????). ????? ????? ????????, ??, ?? ?????? ????
> ?????? ? ????? ?????????? ???????. ? ????? ??????, ?? ?????????
> ??????????? ?????? ????? ??????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????.

?.?. ????? ?? ??? ?????? ??????, ? ?????? ??? ?? ?????????????
??? ???? ?? ??????? ?????...
? ??? ????? ? HSEG (???????, ????????? ?????? ?? SMM-?????? CPU),
??????, ? ??????????????? ?? ? ??????? ?? ??????? ????????? -
???? ??? ???? ????...

> ? ??-?????? - ? ????? ?????? ??? ????????????? ???????

???? ????????????? - ?? ??????.
??? ?? ????? ?????????? ??????, plainly ???????????? ? ?????????,
? ????????? ?????????? ??????? - ??? ???? ????.
?? ??? ???: 
1) ??????? ??????? 0xFEEA_0000h-0xFEEB_FFFF ? 0x000A_0000h-0x000B_FFFF (HSEG).
2) ???????????? "??????" (??? ??? ?????) ?????????? ?????? ??????,
? ????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?????? ?????? (?????????? ? ?????????
?????? ????????? ????????? ?? ???????).
?.?. ????? ??????????? ???????? ????? "??????????? ????????????" ???? ?????.
???????, ??? ?????????? ???????? ???????????/?? ?????? ??? ???
?????????? ?? ???????, ? ?? ??? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ????????????
????? error-prone, ?. ? ?????? ????, ?? ??????? ????????.

> ? ??????, ??? ????? ?????????, ??? ?????? ????????????? ??????? ??????
> ?????? ?????????? ???? ???? ? ?? ???? ??????????? ??????-??????. ?
> ?????? ?????? ??????????? ??????????, ??, ????? ???????? ?????? ?
> ????? ??????? ??????? ??????, ????? ????? ?????????????. ? ??????????
> ???? ????????? ????????? ? 2 ??????????? ???????????? ? ??????? -
> ?????? ? ???? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????????? ?
> ??????????? ??????? ??????????, ???????? - ???????. ? ??? ?????? ??
> 48GB (32+16) ?? ?????? ????????? (? ????? ??? ??? ????????????) ? 40GB
> (32+8) ?? ??????. ????? ?????, ? ?????? ?? ???????. ??????????? ??????
> ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ???, ????? ?????????? ???????????
> ???????.

??. ? ??? ??? ?? ???? ???????? - ??????? ??????????? ????????????
???????? ?????? CPU/??????. ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????.

From spell at itl.ua  Mon Jan  3 00:46:05 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2022 22:46:05 +0000
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29 ??????? 2021 ?., 18:17, spell at itl.ua ???????:

> 
> ??? ???????.
> 1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ?
> ?? ??????).
> 2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI (???? ???? ????? ?? SATA -
> Toshiba MQ01ACF032).

? ??? ????.
??? ? ??? ????????, ? HDD ??????? ???????? ? ? AHCI.
?????????: ??? ???????? ? AHCI ?????? ???? ?? ????????? ??????.
???? ?????? ?????????, ? ?????? ????? AHCI, ???????? ? ?????
????? ??? ?? ????????, ??? ? ???????? ? ??????.

??? ??? ????? ??? ????????????? ????? "USB legacy support".
???? ?? ??????, ??????? ? ????? ???????? ? AHCI ? ?? ??????????? ???????.
?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? ? ?????????? boot menu, ?? ? ??????.

???????, ???? ?????????? ?? ?????:

BIOS drive D: is disk1

?.?. ????? ?????????? ??? ???????:
1) ????????? ??????
2) ????? AHCI
3) loader ????? ?????? (??? drive D)

From eugen at grosbein.net  Mon Jan  3 03:45:15 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:45:15 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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02.01.2022 20:14, spell at itl.ua ?????:

> ? ?? ????, ??? ???? ???? ???????, ?? ????? ?? ???.
> ???? ????, ????? ??????? ?????? ? ???????????? (?????? ?????????? ?????),
> ?????? ???????? 16G, ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????????????,
> ? ??????? 8G ?????? ?????? ?? ????????? ????????????, ???????? ?????? ??? ??????. 
> ??? ? ???? ????? KISS ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????, ?? ? ???????????.

???????? ??? ? ???????????? ?????, ? ??????????????? ??????? ??????????.



From eugen at grosbein.net  Mon Jan  3 04:44:39 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:44:39 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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03.01.2022 5:46, spell at itl.ua ?????:

> ? ??? ????.
> ??? ? ??? ????????, ? HDD ??????? ???????? ? ? AHCI.
> ?????????: ??? ???????? ? AHCI ?????? ???? ?? ????????? ??????.
> ???? ?????? ?????????, ? ?????? ????? AHCI, ???????? ? ?????
> ????? ??? ?? ????????, ??? ? ???????? ? ??????.
> 
> ??? ??? ????? ??? ????????????? ????? "USB legacy support".
> ???? ?? ??????, ??????? ? ????? ???????? ? AHCI ? ?? ??????????? ???????.
> ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? ? ?????????? boot menu, ?? ? ??????.
> 
> ???????, ???? ?????????? ?? ?????:
> 
> BIOS drive D: is disk1
> 
> ?.?. ????? ?????????? ??? ???????:
> 1) ????????? ??????
> 2) ????? AHCI
> 3) loader ????? ?????? (??? drive D)

??? ??? ???? ?????? ? PR ????????????.




From oleg at theweb.org.ua  Mon Jan  3 07:48:14 2022
From: oleg at theweb.org.ua (Oleg V. Nauman)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 07:48:14 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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On 2022 M01 3, Mon 00:46:05 EET spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 29 ??????? 2021 ?., 18:17, spell at itl.ua ???????:
> > ??? ???????.
> > 1) ???????? ?? PR ??? (???????????? ? Toomas Soome, ??? ?? ???????
> > ???????? ???, ? ? ??????? ???, ? ?? ??????).
> > 2) ???????? ??????? ???????????, ???????? ? BIOS ????? IDE ?????? AHCI
> > (???? ???? ????? ?? SATA - Toshiba MQ01ACF032).
> 
> ? ??? ????.
> ??? ? ??? ????????, ? HDD ??????? ???????? ? ? AHCI.
> ?????????: ??? ???????? ? AHCI ?????? ???? ?? ????????? ??????.
> ???? ?????? ?????????, ? ?????? ????? AHCI, ???????? ? ?????
> ????? ??? ?? ????????, ??? ? ???????? ? ??????.
> 
> ??? ??? ????? ??? ????????????? ????? "USB legacy support".
> ???? ?? ??????, ??????? ? ????? ???????? ? AHCI ? ?? ??????????? ???????.
> ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? ? ?????????? boot menu, ?? ? ??????.
> 
> ???????, ???? ?????????? ?? ?????:
> 
> BIOS drive D: is disk1

 gpart show da0

?? ?????????

> 
> ?.?. ????? ?????????? ??? ???????:
> 1) ????????? ??????
> 2) ????? AHCI
> 3) loader ????? ?????? (??? drive D)
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd mailing list
> freebsd at uafug.org.ua
> http://mailman.uafug.org.ua/mailman/listinfo/freebsd


From spell at itl.ua  Mon Jan  3 11:01:35 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:01:35 +0000
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3 ?????? 2022 ?., 4:44, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 03.01.2022 5:46, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> ? ??? ????.
>> ??? ? ??? ????????, ? HDD ??????? ???????? ? ? AHCI.
>> ?????????: ??? ???????? ? AHCI ?????? ???? ?? ????????? ??????.
>> ???? ?????? ?????????, ? ?????? ????? AHCI, ???????? ? ?????
>> ????? ??? ?? ????????, ??? ? ???????? ? ??????.
>> 
>> ??? ??? ????? ??? ????????????? ????? "USB legacy support".
>> ???? ?? ??????, ??????? ? ????? ???????? ? AHCI ? ?? ??????????? ???????.
>> ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? ? ?????????? boot menu, ?? ? ??????.
>> 
>> ???????, ???? ?????????? ?? ?????:
>> 
>> BIOS drive D: is disk1
>> 
>> ?.?. ????? ?????????? ??? ???????:
>> 1) ????????? ??????
>> 2) ????? AHCI
>> 3) loader ????? ?????? (??? drive D)
> 
> ??? ??? ???? ?????? ? PR ????????????.

??????? ?? ???????, ????????.
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255072#c14

From spell at itl.ua  Mon Jan  3 11:02:27 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:02:27 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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3 ?????? 2022 ?., 7:48, "Oleg V. Nauman" <oleg at theweb.org.ua> ???????:


> gpart show da0
> 
> ?? ?????????

???.

From spell at itl.ua  Mon Jan  3 11:14:21 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:14:21 +0000
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3 ?????? 2022 ?., 3:45, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 02.01.2022 20:14, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> ? ?? ????, ??? ???? ???? ???????, ?? ????? ?? ???.
>> ???? ????, ????? ??????? ?????? ? ???????????? (?????? ?????????? ?????),
>> ?????? ???????? 16G, ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????????????,
>> ? ??????? 8G ?????? ?????? ?? ????????? ????????????, ???????? ?????? ??? ??????.
>> ??? ? ???? ????? KISS ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????, ?? ? ???????????.
> 
> ???????? ??? ? ???????????? ?????, ? ??????????????? ??????? ??????????.

??? ?????-?? ????...
? ????????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ????????, ??? ??? ? ???? ?? ????? ?????????? ???? ?????,
??? ?? ???? ??????? "????" ???????? ?? ???? ?? "??????????" ?????????, ???? ??
?????? ?????? biosmem ? smap ? loader'?. ??? ??? ??? ?? "??????????" ???????,
? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ? ???? ????????...

From eugen at grosbein.net  Mon Jan  3 12:05:33 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 17:05:33 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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03.01.2022 16:14, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 3 ?????? 2022 ?., 3:45, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
>> 02.01.2022 20:14, spell at itl.ua ?????:
>>
>>> ? ?? ????, ??? ???? ???? ???????, ?? ????? ?? ???.
>>> ???? ????, ????? ??????? ?????? ? ???????????? (?????? ?????????? ?????),
>>> ?????? ???????? 16G, ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????????????,
>>> ? ??????? 8G ?????? ?????? ?? ????????? ????????????, ???????? ?????? ??? ??????.
>>> ??? ? ???? ????? KISS ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????, ?? ? ???????????.
>>
>> ???????? ??? ? ???????????? ?????, ? ??????????????? ??????? ??????????.
> 
> ??? ?????-?? ????...
> ? ????????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ????????, ??? ??? ? ???? ?? ????? ?????????? ???? ?????,
> ??? ?? ???? ??????? "????" ???????? ?? ???? ?? "??????????" ?????????, ???? ??
> ?????? ?????? biosmem ? smap ? loader'?. ??? ??? ??? ?? "??????????" ???????,
> ? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ? ???? ????????...

?? ? ?? ????? ??????, ???? ??????????????:
https://wiki.osdev.org/Detecting_Memory_(x86)#Detecting_Upper_Memory

??? ??????? ???? ????? ?????????:
    Type 1: Usable (normal) RAM
    Type 2: Reserved - unusable
    Type 3: ACPI reclaimable memory
    Type 4: ACPI NVS memory
    Type 5: Area containing bad memory 

??? ???? BIOS ??????????, ? loader ???????????.


From spell at itl.ua  Mon Jan  3 14:23:31 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:23:31 +0000
Subject: [freebsd]
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3 ?????? 2022 ?., 12:05, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 03.01.2022 16:14, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> ??? ?????-?? ????...
>> ? ????????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ????????, ??? ??? ? ???? ?? ????? ?????????? ???? ?????,
>> ??? ?? ???? ??????? "????" ???????? ?? ???? ?? "??????????" ?????????, ???? ??
>> ?????? ?????? biosmem ? smap ? loader'?. ??? ??? ??? ?? "??????????" ???????,
>> ? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ? ???? ????????...
> 
> ?? ? ?? ????? ??????, ???? ??????????????:
> https://wiki.osdev.org/Detecting_Memory_(x86)#Detecting_Upper_Memory
> 
> ??? ??????? ???? ????? ?????????:
> Type 1: Usable (normal) RAM
> Type 2: Reserved - unusable
> Type 3: ACPI reclaimable memory
> Type 4: ACPI NVS memory
> Type 5: Area containing bad memory
> 
> ??? ???? BIOS ??????????, ? loader ???????????.

?, ?????, "????" ???????? ?? Type 1 (Usable RAM).
? ?????, ??? ???? ?????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? ??????? ???????...

From spell at itl.ua  Thu Jan 20 17:11:17 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 15:11:17 +0000
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3 ?????? 2022 ?., 4:44, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 
> ??? ??? ???? ?????? ? PR ????????????.


???????? ??????? ? ????, ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? bd_edd_io(), ? ???????
?????? ????????? ????? v86int(), ? ??????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????
int $INT_V86

???????, ???????? ?????????? interrupt handler?

From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Jan 20 17:43:01 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 22:43:01 +0700
Subject: [freebsd]
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20.01.2022 22:11, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 3 ?????? 2022 ?., 4:44, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
>>
>> ??? ??? ???? ?????? ? PR ????????????.
> 
> 
> ???????? ??????? ? ????, ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? bd_edd_io(), ? ???????
> ?????? ????????? ????? v86int(), ? ??????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????
> int $INT_V86
> 
> ???????, ???????? ?????????? interrupt handler?

??? ?????? ?? ????????????. ???? loader ?? 11.2 ???????? BIOS ???, ??? BIOS ???????????? ?????,
? ????? ?????? loader ???????? BIOS ???, ??? ?????? BIOS ??? ????????,
?? ????? ???????? ??? loader, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ? ?????? BIOS-???.



From spell at itl.ua  Thu Jan 20 19:04:52 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 17:04:52 +0000
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20 ?????? 2022 ?., 17:43, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 20.01.2022 22:11, spell at itl.ua ?????:
> 
>> 3 ?????? 2022 ?., 4:44, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>> 
>>> ??? ??? ???? ?????? ? PR ????????????.
>> 
>> ???????? ??????? ? ????, ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? bd_edd_io(), ? ???????
>> ?????? ????????? ????? v86int(), ? ??????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????
>> int $INT_V86
>> 
>> ???????, ???????? ?????????? interrupt handler?
> 
> ??? ?????? ?? ????????????. ???? loader ?? 11.2 ???????? BIOS ???, ??? BIOS ???????????? ?????,
> ? ????? ?????? loader ???????? BIOS ???, ??? ?????? BIOS ??? ????????,
> ?? ????? ???????? ??? loader, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ? ?????? BIOS-???.

??????????, workarounds ????? ?? ???????. ?? ????????? ????????, ?? ???? ??????? ????????.
?? ???? ?????? ?? interrupt handler ???? ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ??????????
(????????? ?????????, ?????/etc) ? ???????????? ???? ?? ? ???????? ??? ????

? ?????? ???????, ? ????????? ???, ?? ???? ??????????, ? ?? ??????? ??????? ? ?????????
?????????? ????? ????????? ???????? bd_edd_io() ? ????? ???, ??????? ???????.
???? ??????????, ??? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?????? ???????? ??????????
dest (??? ?????????? bbuf ? bd_realstrategy()).
???? ??? ??????????? ? ?????????? bio_buffer (??? ??? ??????????), ????????????? ? BSS, bd_edd_io() ??????.
???? ??? ??????????? ? PTOV(V86_IO_BUFFER) (V86_IO_BUFFER=0x8000) (??? ??? ?????????), bd_edd_io() ?? ??????.
??? ?????? ?????? ????????. (??, ?????? ? ??????????? ???????? read size, ????? ???????????
? ?????????? ??? V86_IO_BUFFER 4 ?????????).
(???? ?? ?????????? ??????? read size, ???? bbuf=bio_buffer, ?? ????????????? ????.)

?.?. ???? ??? ?????? int 0x31, ???? ?????? (? AHCI), ?????? ???. ?????????? ?????? ????????? ????? ???????
??????, ???????????????? ??? ?????.
?????? ??? IDE mode ??????????? ?????????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??????, ? ??? AHCI - ?????? ???? ?? ???.

? - ??????? ?? ????? - ???? ?????????? ? ????????? (?? ?????? ? ?? ?????) ????????? ? bd_edd_io(),
???? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Thu Jan 20 20:25:09 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 01:25:09 +0700
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21.01.2022 0:04, spell at itl.ua wrote:

>>> ???????, ???????? ?????????? interrupt handler?
>>
>> ??? ?????? ?? ????????????. ???? loader ?? 11.2 ???????? BIOS ???, ??? BIOS ???????????? ?????,
>> ? ????? ?????? loader ???????? BIOS ???, ??? ?????? BIOS ??? ????????,
>> ?? ????? ???????? ??? loader, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ? ?????? BIOS-???.
> 
> ??????????, workarounds ????? ?? ???????. ?? ????????? ????????, ?? ???? ??????? ????????.
> ?? ???? ?????? ?? interrupt handler ???? ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ??????????
> (????????? ?????????, ?????/etc) ? ???????????? ???? ?? ? ???????? ??? ????

?? ??????. ????????? ?????? BIOS ???????? ?????? ? real mode, ????????? ?????? ? protected mode,
????????? ? ?????. ? ??? loader ??????????? ????????? ? protected mode,
?? ???? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??? ??????????? ? ??????? ? ??????????.
??-?? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????.

??? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ????? ? ???? BIOS. ? ???? ???? ?????.



From paul_t at ukr.net  Thu Jan 20 22:40:36 2022
From: paul_t at ukr.net (Paul Tatarenko)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 22:40:36 +0200
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On 20.01.2022 20:25, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> 21.01.2022 0:04, spell at itl.ua wrote:
>
>>>> ???????, ???????? ?????????? interrupt handler?
>>> ??? ?????? ?? ????????????. ???? loader ?? 11.2 ???????? BIOS ???, ??? BIOS ???????????? ?????,
>>> ? ????? ?????? loader ???????? BIOS ???, ??? ?????? BIOS ??? ????????,
>>> ?? ????? ???????? ??? loader, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ? ?????? BIOS-???.
>> ??????????, workarounds ????? ?? ???????. ?? ????????? ????????, ?? ???? ??????? ????????.
>> ?? ???? ?????? ?? interrupt handler ???? ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ??????????
>> (????????? ?????????, ?????/etc) ? ???????????? ???? ?? ? ???????? ??? ????
> ?? ??????. ????????? ?????? BIOS ???????? ?????? ? real mode, ????????? ?????? ? protected mode,
> ????????? ? ?????. ? ??? loader ??????????? ????????? ? protected mode,
> ?? ???? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??? ??????????? ? ??????? ? ??????????.
> ??-?? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????.
>
> ??? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ????? ? ???? BIOS. ? ???? ???? ?????.
>
> http://mailman.uafug.org.ua/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????? (BIOS-??)? 
?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???????

-- 
Best regards,
  Paul Tatarenko                       http://tatarenko.kiev.ua
[listening to coolest sound - silence]
[Silence is sexy - Einsturzende Neubauten]


From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Jan 21 09:24:07 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:24:07 +0700
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21.01.2022 3:40, Paul Tatarenko ?????:

> ? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????? (BIOS-??)? ?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???????

????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.

? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ? ???????????? ? Hetzner ???????? Dell,
????? ? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????????? 11.1, ?? ??????????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ?????,
? ????? ? shell ? ???????? ??? ??? ??? ?????? gpart, ??? ?????? ??? ??????????,
???????? ??? ZFS, ???????? ?? ???? ?????????????? .txz ? ???????????? ??.
? ??? ??? ??????? ????????????????.

????? ????????? ??? ???????????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ? Hetzner,
?? ??? 12.1 ? ???, ???????, ??? ????????????, ?? ?? ??????????? - ?????. ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??????,
?? ? ?????? ????? ?????????? ? ???????????????? ??????, ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?? 11.1 ? ???
????????? ??????? 12.1 - ??? ? ???????, ?????? ??? ?????????????????? ?? ??????? ??????? ??????????? ?? ????.
? ??? ??? ??????????? ????????? ????? ?? ??????, ?? ? ????????? ?? ???? ?????.


From spell at itl.ua  Fri Jan 21 13:46:51 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:46:51 +0000
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20 ?????? 2022 ?., 22:40, "Paul Tatarenko" <paul_t at ukr.net> ???????:

> 
> ? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????? (BIOS-??)?
> ?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???????

?? ?????? ?? ????? ??????. BIOS test passed.
? ????? ?? ?????????? ??????.
????????? ????? ?????? (? ???????? ???? ?? BSS) - ?? ?? ?????.
? ??? ?? BIOS ?????? ? ???????????.

From paul_t at ukr.net  Fri Jan 21 21:40:01 2022
From: paul_t at ukr.net (Paul Tatarenko)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 21:40:01 +0200
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On 21.01.2022 9:24, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> 21.01.2022 3:40, Paul Tatarenko ?????:
>
>> ? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????? (BIOS-??)? ?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???????
> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
>
> ? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ? ???????????? ? Hetzner ???????? Dell,
> ????? ? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????????? 11.1, ?? ??????????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ?????,
> ? ????? ? shell ? ???????? ??? ??? ??? ?????? gpart, ??? ?????? ??? ??????????,
> ???????? ??? ZFS, ???????? ?? ???? ?????????????? .txz ? ???????????? ??.
> ? ??? ??? ??????? ????????????????.
>
> ????? ????????? ??? ???????????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ? Hetzner,
> ?? ??? 12.1 ? ???, ???????, ??? ????????????, ?? ?? ??????????? - ?????. ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??????,
> ?? ? ?????? ????? ?????????? ? ???????????????? ??????, ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?? 11.1 ? ???
> ????????? ??????? 12.1 - ??? ? ???????, ?????? ??? ?????????????????? ?? ??????? ??????? ??????????? ?? ????.
> ? ??? ??? ??????????? ????????? ????? ?? ??????, ?? ? ????????? ?? ???? ?????.

"????? ?? ??????" ???? ???? ????????? "??????". ?????? ???????? ???? ?? ???

-- 
Best regards,
  Paul Tatarenko                       http://tatarenko.kiev.ua
[listening to coolest sound - silence]
[Silence is sexy - Einsturzende Neubauten]


From paul_t at ukr.net  Fri Jan 21 21:46:02 2022
From: paul_t at ukr.net (Paul Tatarenko)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 21:46:02 +0200
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On 21.01.2022 13:46, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 20 ?????? 2022 ?., 22:40, "Paul Tatarenko" <paul_t at ukr.net> ???????:
>
>> ? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????? (BIOS-??)?
>> ?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???????

? ???? ???-??? ?????????. ??? ???? ;)

?????? BIOS ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????? ??????????????? ????, ???????, 
??????? ????? ????? ????? ????????? ??????????????, ????????? ...

> ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??????. BIOS test passed.
> ? ????? ?? ?????????? ??????.
> ????????? ????? ?????? (? ???????? ???? ?? BSS) - ?? ?? ?????.
> ? ??? ?? BIOS ?????? ? ???????????.

... ???? ?????? ??????? ????????????? ????????????? ????????:

> ? - ??????? ?? ????? - ???? ?????????? ? ????????? (?? ?????? ? ?? ?????) ????????? ? bd_edd_io(),
> ???? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????.

-- 
Best regards,
  Paul Tatarenko                       http://tatarenko.kiev.ua
[listening to coolest sound - silence]
[Silence is sexy - Einsturzende Neubauten]


From eugen at grosbein.net  Fri Jan 21 21:55:25 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 02:55:25 +0700
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On 22.01.2022 02:40, Paul Tatarenko wrote:

> On 21.01.2022 9:24, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
>> 21.01.2022 3:40, Paul Tatarenko ?????:
>>
>>> ? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????? (BIOS-??)? ?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???????
>> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
>>
>> ? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ? ???????????? ? Hetzner ???????? Dell,
>> ????? ? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????????? 11.1, ?? ??????????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ?????,
>> ? ????? ? shell ? ???????? ??? ??? ??? ?????? gpart, ??? ?????? ??? ??????????,
>> ???????? ??? ZFS, ???????? ?? ???? ?????????????? .txz ? ???????????? ??.
>> ? ??? ??? ??????? ????????????????.
>>
>> ????? ????????? ??? ???????????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ? Hetzner,
>> ?? ??? 12.1 ? ???, ???????, ??? ????????????, ?? ?? ??????????? - ?????. ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??????,
>> ?? ? ?????? ????? ?????????? ? ???????????????? ??????, ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?? 11.1 ? ???
>> ????????? ??????? 12.1 - ??? ? ???????, ?????? ??? ?????????????????? ?? ??????? ??????? ??????????? ?? ????.
>> ? ??? ??? ??????????? ????????? ????? ?? ??????, ?? ? ????????? ?? ???? ?????.
> 
> "????? ?? ??????" ???? ???? ????????? "??????". ?????? ???????? ???? ?? ???

?????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ? ?????? ??? ???? ???????, ?????? ???? ?? ?? ? ?????? BIOS ????????? ? ??????????? ?? ??,
? ????????? ?? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????????.


From spell at itl.ua  Sat Jan 22 15:55:55 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 13:55:55 +0000
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21 ?????? 2022 ?., 21:46, "Paul Tatarenko" <paul_t at ukr.net> ???????:??

> On 21.01.2022 13:46, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 
>> 20 ?????? 2022 ?., 22:40, "Paul Tatarenko" <paul_t at ukr.net> ???????:
>> 
>>> ? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????? (BIOS-??)?
>>> ?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???????
> 
> ? ???? ???-??? ?????????. ??? ???? ;)

????? ??? :)
? ???? ???? ????? ??????.
???? ?????? ??????? ??????? ? ?????? ???? PR, ???? ? ????.

> 
> ?????? BIOS ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????? ??????????????? ????, ???????,
> ??????? ????? ????? ????? ????????? ??????????????, ????????? ...
> 
>> ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??????. BIOS test passed.
>> ? ????? ?? ?????????? ??????.
>> ????????? ????? ?????? (? ???????? ???? ?? BSS) - ?? ?? ?????.??
>> ? ??? ?? BIOS ?????? ? ???????????.
> 
> ... ???? ?????? ??????? ????????????? ????????????? ????????:

? ???? ??? ???????! :)
?? ????????????? ???????? ?????? ??????????? ?????? ????????? bd_edd_io().
? ????????? ??? ????????? - ?????? ??????, AHCI mode, ????? ?????? ? BSS.
?????? ?? ?????-?? race condition, ??????
???? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ????

> 
>> ? - ??????? ?? ????? - ???? ?????????? ? ????????? (?? ?????? ? ?? ?????) ????????? ? bd_edd_io(),
>> ???? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????.

From spell at itl.ua  Sat Jan 22 19:48:17 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 17:48:17 +0000
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21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.

????????? ? ???? printf'?? - ??????????? ?? ?? ???????? zfs probing.
? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ? ?????? ? ???? ????????? ?? 12.3.

????????, ??? ?? ???? zfs probing ?? ??? ???, ?????? ?? ????? ????
????? ??? ?????????? ????????? ?????? ??????, ? ???? ?? ??? ????????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Sun Jan 23 01:10:27 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 05:48:17PM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> > 
> > ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
> 
> ????????? ? ???? printf'?? - ??????????? ?? ?? ???????? zfs probing.
> ? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ? ?????? ? ???? ????????? ?? 12.3.
> 
> ????????, ??? ?? ???? zfs probing ?? ??? ???, ?????? ?? ????? ????
> ????? ??? ?????????? ????????? ?????? ??????, ? ???? ?? ??? ????????.

??? ????? ?????????. zfs_probing ????? ?????????? ?????? ??????,
??? ?????????, ??? ??? ??????, ??? ??? ???. ??? ??? ?????? ??????
?? ???????????? ?????? ? ???????.

From spell at itl.ua  Sun Jan 23 01:53:29 2022
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20 ?????? 2022 ?., 20:25, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> 21.01.2022 0:04, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 
>> ???????, ???????? ?????????? interrupt handler?
>>> ??? ?????? ?? ????????????. ???? loader ?? 11.2 ???????? BIOS ???, ??? BIOS ???????????? ?????,
>>> ? ????? ?????? loader ???????? BIOS ???, ??? ?????? BIOS ??? ????????,
>>> ?? ????? ???????? ??? loader, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ? ?????? BIOS-???.
>> 
>> ??????????, workarounds ????? ?? ???????. ?? ????????? ????????, ?? ???? ??????? ????????.
>> ?? ???? ?????? ?? interrupt handler ???? ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ??????????
>> (????????? ?????????, ?????/etc) ? ???????????? ???? ?? ? ???????? ??? ????
> 
> ?? ??????. ????????? ?????? BIOS ???????? ?????? ? real mode, ????????? ?????? ? protected mode,
> ????????? ? ?????. ? ??? loader ??????????? ????????? ? protected mode,
> ?? ???? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??? ??????????? ? ??????? ? ??????????.
> ??-?? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????.

????? ?????? ?????????? ?? ????? ?????? ? hdd ? ? ??????, ?? ?????? ???????? ?????????? edata
(????? ???????? ??????) ? ?????? ???????? ?????????? end (????? BSS), ??? ? ????????.
?????? - ?????? ?????????? 0xA000 ? ???????????? ?????? ??? ????????? ???????????,
????? ??????? ????????? ??????.
???? ?? ???? ???? ???? ? ???????, ?? ?? ?????? ? ????????? ? ????? ????, ? ?????? ?? ??????
?????????? ?? IDE/AHCI ??????.

??? ???????????:
? ??? ?????, ??? ?????????? bd_edd_io(), ? ????????? ???? ?? 100 ???? ??????? ??????.
???? ?????????? ? ???????? ????? ?????, ?.?. ???? ? ??? ?? ????? ? ????? ? ??? ?? ???????
??????? ?????? ??????????? N ???, ? ?? N+1 ??????.
??, ????? ?????????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????? ??????????.

?? bd_edd_io() ?????????? v86int(), ??????? ???????? btx-??? int 31h, ??????? ????????
?????????? int 13h (?????? ? ??????).
???????, ???????? ??? int 31h ??? int 13h.

From spell at itl.ua  Sun Jan 23 02:18:45 2022
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23 ?????? 2022 ?., 1:10, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 05:48:17PM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 
>> 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>> 
>> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
>> 
>> ????????? ? ???? printf'?? - ??????????? ?? ?? ???????? zfs probing.
>> ? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ? ?????? ? ???? ????????? ?? 12.3.
>> 
>> ????????, ??? ?? ???? zfs probing ?? ??? ???, ?????? ?? ????? ????
>> ????? ??? ?????????? ????????? ?????? ??????, ? ???? ?? ??? ????????.
> 
> ??? ????? ?????????. zfs_probing ????? ?????????? ?????? ??????,
> ??? ?????????, ??? ??? ??????, ??? ??? ???. ??? ??? ?????? ??????
> ?? ???????????? ?????? ? ???????.

? ????????? ?????? ???????, ???? ?????? bd_edd_io(), ? ?????????? packet (????????
????? ?????? ??? ??????), ????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????,
??? ????????? ????? edata ? end ? ?? ????????.
??? ??? ????? ????????? ?????? ? ???????? bd_edd_io() ????????????

From spell at itl.ua  Sun Jan 23 03:33:21 2022
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 01:33:21 +0000
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21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.

?????? ?????? bd_int13probe() ????????? ???? ?? ????? ???????, ? 11.2 ???? ?????????.
?????? ??? zfs probing ???? int 13h ????????? ????? 2-3 ????, ??? ??? ??????????? ????? ????? ????.
? ??? zfs probing - ???????, ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ???.

BTW, bd_int13probe() ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????.

From eugen at grosbein.net  Sun Jan 23 13:45:36 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 18:45:36 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?koi8-r?b?MTMuMCBtZW1zdGljayDOxSDH0tXaydTT0Q==?=
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On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 01:33:21AM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:

> 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> > 
> > ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
> 
> ?????? ?????? bd_int13probe() ????????? ???? ?? ????? ???????, ? 11.2 ???? ?????????.
> ?????? ??? zfs probing ???? int 13h ????????? ????? 2-3 ????, ??? ??? ??????????? ????? ????? ????.
> ? ??? zfs probing - ???????, ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ???.
> 
> BTW, bd_int13probe() ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????.

?? ???????? ??? ? BIOS, ??? ??? ????????????? ????????? ???? ???,
? ??????, ?????? ?? Windows ?????? ?????? ? ????-?????? ???????? ????? ????.
?? ???????????, ??? ??? ???????? ?????. ????? ??????????? ?????? ?????
? boot2 ? ??? ?????? /boot.config ???????? ????? ???? ??? ??????????
zfs_probing, ???? ? ??? loader. ??????? workaround ??? ?????? ??????
? ??????, ????? ?????? ZFS ?? removable drives ?? ?????.

From vsasjason at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 13:53:30 2022
From: vsasjason at gmail.com (Anton Saietskii)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:53:30 +0200
Subject: [freebsd]
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On Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 13:46 Eugene Grosbein <eugen at grosbein.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 01:33:21AM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:
>
> > 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> > >
> > > ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
> >
> > ?????? ?????? bd_int13probe() ????????? ???? ?? ????? ???????, ? 11.2
> ???? ?????????.
> > ?????? ??? zfs probing ???? int 13h ????????? ????? 2-3 ????, ??? ???
> ??????????? ????? ????? ????.
> > ? ??? zfs probing - ???????, ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ???.
> >
> > BTW, bd_int13probe() ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????.
>
> ?? ???????? ??? ? BIOS, ??? ??? ????????????? ????????? ???? ???,
> ? ??????, ?????? ?? Windows ?????? ?????? ? ????-?????? ???????? ?????
> ????.
> ?? ???????????, ??? ??? ???????? ?????. ????? ??????????? ?????? ?????
> ? boot2 ? ??? ?????? /boot.config ???????? ????? ???? ??? ??????????
> zfs_probing, ???? ? ??? loader. ??????? workaround ??? ?????? ??????
> ? ??????, ????? ?????? ZFS ?? removable drives ?? ?????.
>
? ????? ??? ??????? WITHOUT_LOADER_ZFS ??.

>
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From spell at itl.ua  Sun Jan 23 14:13:34 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 12:13:34 +0000
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23 ?????? 2022 ?., 13:45, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:

> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 01:33:21AM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 
>> 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>> 
>> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
>> 
>> ?????? ?????? bd_int13probe() ????????? ???? ?? ????? ???????, ? 11.2 ???? ?????????.
>> ?????? ??? zfs probing ???? int 13h ????????? ????? 2-3 ????, ??? ??? ??????????? ????? ????? ????.
>> ? ??? zfs probing - ???????, ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ???.
>> 
>> BTW, bd_int13probe() ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????.
> 
> ?? ???????? ??? ? BIOS, ??? ??? ????????????? ????????? ???? ???,
> ? ??????, ?????? ?? Windows ?????? ?????? ? ????-?????? ???????? ????? ????.
> ?? ???????????, ??? ??? ???????? ?????. ????? ??????????? ?????? ?????
> ? boot2 ? ??? ?????? /boot.config ???????? ????? ???? ??? ??????????
> zfs_probing, ???? ? ??? loader. ??????? workaround ??? ?????? ??????
> ? ??????, ????? ?????? ZFS ?? removable drives ?? ?????.

??? ???? ??? MK_LOADER_ZFS ? HAVE_ZFS, ? ?????? HAVE_ZFS ?? loader/Makefile ? ??? ???????
loader ??? zfs probing.
?? ??? ?? ??????? ????????, ? ?????? ?????????? ??????????? ?????.
?? ????? ???????????? ?? ???? 100500 ???????? loader ????? ?????? ?? ????? ????? ??????.

??, ??? ???? ???????, ??? ??? ??? ? BIOS.
????????, ?? ??????????? ? ??? Windows/Linux, ?? ??-?? ????, ??? ??? ????????? ??? ?????,
??? ?????? ?? ????????.

? ?? ????? ???-?? ????????? ? ??? ??????????? interrupt handler'??

From spell at itl.ua  Sun Jan 23 17:32:07 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 15:32:07 +0000
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21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> 
> ? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ? ???????????? ? Hetzner ???????? Dell,
> ????? ? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????????? 11.1, ?? ??????????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ?????,
> ? ????? ? shell ? ???????? ??? ??? ??? ?????? gpart, ??? ?????? ??? ??????????,
> ???????? ??? ZFS, ???????? ?? ???? ?????????????? .txz ? ???????????? ??.
> ? ??? ??? ??????? ????????????????.
> 
> ????? ????????? ??? ???????????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ?
> Hetzner,
> ?? ??? 12.1 ? ???, ???????, ??? ????????????, ?? ?? ??????????? - ?????.

??????, ???? ??????? ??????:

https://www.truenas.com/community/threads/btx-loader-hang-freenas-wont-boot-with-four-sata-drives-connected.77729/

???? Dell, USB Flash drive, AHCI mode. ?????? ?????? 11.2 (??? zfs probing ?????? ?? ???????).
????????? ????? ????????? ?????? RAID ?????? AHCI. (?? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ????????)

From eugen at grosbein.net  Mon Jan 24 06:21:13 2022
From: eugen at grosbein.net (Eugene Grosbein)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:21:13 +0700
Subject: [freebsd] =?koi8-r?b?MTMuMCBtZW1zdGljayDOxSDH0tXaydTT0Q==?=
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On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 01:53:30PM +0200, Anton Saietskii wrote:

> > ?? ???????? ??? ? BIOS, ??? ??? ????????????? ????????? ???? ???,
> > ? ??????, ?????? ?? Windows ?????? ?????? ? ????-?????? ???????? ?????
> > ????.
> > ?? ???????????, ??? ??? ???????? ?????. ????? ??????????? ?????? ?????
> > ? boot2 ? ??? ?????? /boot.config ???????? ????? ???? ??? ??????????
> > zfs_probing, ???? ? ??? loader. ??????? workaround ??? ?????? ??????
> > ? ??????, ????? ?????? ZFS ?? removable drives ?? ?????.
> >
> ? ????? ??? ??????? WITHOUT_LOADER_ZFS ??.

??? ????????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ??????????,
???? ??? ?????? ???? ? ?????????? ?? ??????? ? ?????????????? ???????.

From slw at zxy.spb.ru  Mon Jan 24 11:52:06 2022
From: slw at zxy.spb.ru (Slawa Olhovchenkov)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 12:52:06 +0300
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On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 01:33:21AM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:

> 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> > 
> > ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
> 
> ?????? ?????? bd_int13probe() ????????? ???? ?? ????? ???????, ? 11.2 ???? ?????????.
> ?????? ??? zfs probing ???? int 13h ????????? ????? 2-3 ????, ??? ??? ??????????? ????? ????? ????.
> ? ??? zfs probing - ???????, ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ???.
> 
> BTW, bd_int13probe() ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????.

?????? ?? ?????-?? ????? ? ????????????.
??? ?? ?????????????? ?????-??
??? ??? ????????? ???-?? ????????.

From spell at itl.ua  Mon Jan 24 12:19:57 2022
From: spell at itl.ua (spell at itl.ua)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:19:57 +0000
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24 ?????? 2022 ?., 11:52, "Slawa Olhovchenkov" <slw at zxy.spb.ru> ???????:

> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 01:33:21AM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> 
>> 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
>> 
>> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
>> 
>> ?????? ?????? bd_int13probe() ????????? ???? ?? ????? ???????, ? 11.2 ???? ?????????.
>> ?????? ??? zfs probing ???? int 13h ????????? ????? 2-3 ????, ??? ??? ??????????? ????? ????? ????.
>> ? ??? zfs probing - ???????, ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ???.
>> 
>> BTW, bd_int13probe() ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????.
> 
> ?????? ?? ?????-?? ????? ? ????????????.
> ??? ?? ?????????????? ?????-??
> ??? ??? ????????? ???-?? ????????.

??, ? ?????? ? ???? ?? ??????, ???????? ??? ??? ????? ? ?? ????? ?????? ??????.
?? ????? ??? ?????????? - 31h (btx-??? ????????? ? ?????????? ???????????)
? ?????????? 13h - ?????????? ?????????? (?????? ? ??????).
?????? ???? ?? ??? (???? - ??? ???????? ?? bd_edd_io()).
?? ????????? ? IDE/RAID ?????? ??? ????????? (????????? brute force'??
?? 100500 ???????), ?? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????????? 13h.
??????, ?? ??????????? ???????? ? ?????? AHCI.

From slw at zxy.spb.ru  Mon Jan 24 12:47:43 2022
From: slw at zxy.spb.ru (Slawa Olhovchenkov)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:47:43 +0300
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:19:57AM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:

> 24 ?????? 2022 ?., 11:52, "Slawa Olhovchenkov" <slw at zxy.spb.ru> ???????:
> 
> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 01:33:21AM +0000, spell at itl.ua wrote:
> > 
> >> 21 ?????? 2022 ?., 9:24, "Eugene Grosbein" <eugen at grosbein.net> ???????:
> >> 
> >> ????????? ?? 11.2 ????????.
> >> 
> >> ?????? ?????? bd_int13probe() ????????? ???? ?? ????? ???????, ? 11.2 ???? ?????????.
> >> ?????? ??? zfs probing ???? int 13h ????????? ????? 2-3 ????, ??? ??? ??????????? ????? ????? ????.
> >> ? ??? zfs probing - ???????, ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ???.
> >> 
> >> BTW, bd_int13probe() ?? ?????????? ??????? ??????.
> > 
> > ?????? ?? ?????-?? ????? ? ????????????.
> > ??? ?? ?????????????? ?????-??
> > ??? ??? ????????? ???-?? ????????.
> 
> ??, ? ?????? ? ???? ?? ??????, ???????? ??? ??? ????? ? ?? ????? ?????? ??????.
> ?? ????? ??? ?????????? - 31h (btx-??? ????????? ? ?????????? ???????????)
> ? ?????????? 13h - ?????????? ?????????? (?????? ? ??????).
> ?????? ???? ?? ??? (???? - ??? ???????? ?? bd_edd_io()).
> ?? ????????? ? IDE/RAID ?????? ??? ????????? (????????? brute force'??
> ?? 100500 ???????), ?? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????????? 13h.
> ??????, ?? ??????????? ???????? ? ?????? AHCI.

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 12:31:00 +0000
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24 ?????? 2022 ?., 12:47, "Slawa Olhovchenkov" <slw at zxy.spb.ru> ???????:
> 
> ?? ??? ??????????.
> ??????????.
> ??????? ?? ??????? ?/??? ?????????

???, ??.
???, ????????, ? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ??????.
????, ?????????? 13h ???-?? ???????????? ? ????, ? ?????? ????????.